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Home My WebLink AboutDocumentation_Regular_Tab 5D_10/13/1988 - '. ....ter.:•,�c v. .. :..� .,t- .�.± -. .. •sx-�s:_a'.1 `r.d�: a7-... w*?-v. ,. _ .c;*a z;..T^ 'r.��. ._r% ._ '�xr t ,.. _ xf-.�.✓.. „ • . VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA J' BUILDING DEPARTMENT .ti - Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive +1i� „ 0 • Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 MEMORANDUM: TO: Wendy K. Harrison. Acting Village Manager FROM: Scott D. Ladd, Building Official and s'E4 Clerk of the Community Appearance Board DATE: October 6, 1988 . SUBJECT: Report to Council with regard to the Community Appearance Board reviews and activities. Please find attached a copy of the Community Appearance Board activities for the following meeting dates: July 20, 1988 1 applicant & workshop with Village Attorney August 10, 1988 Workshop meeting, C. A. B. / Planning Commission August 24,. 1988 3 applicants August 30, 1988 1 applicant September 21, 1988 Workshop meeting, C. A. B. / Planning Commission September 28, 1988 1 applicant This packet is for reproduction and inclusion with the Village Council packet. • • jms encl. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA '' BUILDING DEPARTMENT - Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tryurcta Drice Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 MEMORANDUM: E TO: Members & Alternate Members, Community Appearance Board Village Manager Village AtT6rney Administrative Assistant to Village Manager Building Official ��,,//�� FROM: Scott D. Ladd. Clerk of the Board 6-,et: DATE: September 20, 1988 SUBJECT: July 20, 1988 Workshop Meeting Minutes. Please find attached a copy of the meeting minutes from the July 20. 1988 workshop with the Village Attorney. Please take time to review these minutes and have your comments ready for the next Community Appearance Board meeting. Thank you. j ms attch. • - VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT y�,�� Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive_ - Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-75(5 . , MEETING MINUTES - COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD am- MEETING DATE: JULY 20, 1988 MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT: 9: 40 A. M. BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: COOK YES COBLE NO COHEN YES GETTIG YES FRANK YES DALACK YES COLLINS NO APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES: MEETING DATE: JULY 6, 1988 COMMENTS: MOTION TO APPROVE BY: CHAIRMAN COOK VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE --- COBEN FOR GETTIG FOR FRANK FOR DALACK FOR COLLINS. --- I MEETING M?-NUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MfiE'TING DATE: JULY 20, 1988 mw APPLICANT # 1: FERRIN SIGNS FOR COMMUNITY SAVINGS, 101 U. S. HW ,_ ONE, NORTH SUBJECT: DIRECTIONAL SIGN AT DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE. OVERALL SIGN HEIGHT IS 5' . SIGN PORTION IS 32" HIGH X 26" WIDE. MAJOR POINTS: MOTION BY: MEMBER COBEN TO APPROVE XX DISAPPROVE AS SUBMITTED MODIFIED: XX AS FOLLOWS: MAXIMUM HEIGHT, OF 4' SUBJECT TO COMMUNITY SAVINGS PAYING ANY COST INCURRED TO MOVE THE SIGN IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS ANY IMPACT FROM THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE INTERSECTION. SECOND BY: MEMBER FRANK VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE --- COBEN FOR GETTIG FOR FRANK FOR DALACK FOR COLLINS --- MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: JULY_20, 1988 APPLICANT * WORKS OP MEETING WITH VILLAGE-ATTORNEY, -JOHA C. ( SKIP) RANDOLPH SUBJECT: PARAMETERS UNDER WHICH THE BOARD OPERATES. BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: LESLIE COOK, CHAIRMAN PAUL COBEN BILL FRANK JANET GETTIG CLAUDETTE DALACK, ALT. MAJOR POINTS: COMMENTS FROM THE VILLAGE ATTORNEY: IN REGARD TO THE COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD ORDINANCE, IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD ORDINANCES THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN BECAUSE IT CONTAINS MORE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS. I THINK, ON THE WHOLE THE ORDINANCE WOULD WITHSTAND A CHALLENGE IN COURT BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT' S WRITTEN. THE MAJORITY OF C. A. B. ORDINANCES WOULD NOT WITHSTAND A JUDICIAL ATTACK BECAUSE OF THEIR LACK OF STANDARDS. THE REASON THAT MANY ORDINANCES FAIL IS BECAUSE OF LACK OF OBJECTIVE STANDARDS. A PERSON HAS A RIGHT, WHEN HE COMES INTO A COMMUNITY, TO KNOW WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE BEFORE HE MAKES AN APPLICATION, HE HAS A RIGHT TO BE ADVISED AS TO THOSE STANDARDS. WHEN HE IS NOT ADVISED AS TO THOSE STANDARDS, WHEN HE HAS NO DIRECTION, THE COURT WILL, IN MOST INSTANCES, THROW THE ORDINANCE OUT. THE COURT WILL JUST SAY YOU HAVEN' T GIVEN ANY GUIDELINES TO THESE PEOPLE AS TO WHAT TO DO AND THAT ALLOWS FOR TOO MUCH SUBJECTIVITY, ALLOWS FOR TOO !'!UCH OF AN ABUSE OF DISCRETION. THAT IS WHERE COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARDS GET IN TROUBLE, WHERE THEY DO ABUSE THEIR DISCRETION. EXAMPLE: MOST C. A. B. ORDINANCES SIMPLY HAVE LANGUAGE SUCH AS; THE PROPOSED BUILDING SHOULD NOT BE TOO SIMILAR CR TOO DISSIMILAR FROM OTHER BUILDINGS IN THE AREA. KEEP LANGUAGE SUCH AS THAT WHICH ALLOWS FOR ALOT OF SUBJECTIVITY AND ALOT OF DISCRETION. THAT' S NOT TO SAY THE VILLAGE ORDINANCE DOES NOT HAVE SIMILAR LANGUAGE IN IT. IT DOES. BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENS TO ALOT OF C. A. B. 'S IS THEY GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY START GETTING INTO PERHAPS TOO MUCH DETAIL AND THEY START FEELING LIKE THEY HAVE MORE POWER THAN THEY DO. THEY START LOSING THEIR CBJECTIVITY AND THEY START ABUSING THEIR DISCRETION. • Page 2 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 C. A. B. ORDINANCES ARE REALLY SET UP TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING RADICAL HAPPENS WITHIN A COMMUNITY. WE HAVE ZONING ORDINANCES AND WHEN A PERSON COMPLIES WITH A ZONING ORDINANCE. FOR INSTANCE AS TO SETBACKS, THAT IS AN OBJECTIVE STAND, A PERSON KNOWB - WHEN HE COMES IN THAT HE HAS TO ,p0OMPLY inTH THOSE SETBACKS AND IF 41a. COMPLIES WITH THOSE SETBACKS. A C. A. B. DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO COME IN AND SAY NOW WAIT AThINUTE, I DON' T LIKE THE WAY THAT THIS HOUSE SITS ON THIS LOT. I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE GREATER SIDE YARD SETBACKS. YOU CAN' T DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ORDINANCES WHICH TAKE CARE OF THAT KIND OFFHING. THE SAME WITH THE BUILDING CODE. WE HAVE A BUILDING CODE WHICH SAYS WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. IT IS NOT THE FUNCTION OF THE C. A. B. TO COME IN AND SAY NOW IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE. WE THINK THIS SHOULD BE DONE. BECAUSE THOSE ARE OBJECTIVE STANDARDS THAT A PERSON LOOKS AT AND HE KNOWS HE CAN FOLLOW AND USUALLY BE GRANTED HIS APPLICATION. C. A. B. SORT OF EXISTS AS A LAST RESORT. IT IS A GOOD ORDINANCE TO HAVE ON THE BOOKS. TO ALLOW YOU TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO MAY COME IN WITH RADICAL DESIGNS WHICH AREN' T IN CONFORMITY WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE STRICT LETTER OF THE ZONING LAWS AND THE BUILDING CODE. THEY COULD COME IN WITH SUCH A RADICAL DESIGN THAT IS NOT IN CONFORMITY WITH THE COMMUNITY. FOR INSTANCE. SAY IN THE COUNTRY CLUB WHERE YOU HAVE A TYPICAL FLORIDA. C. B. S. HOME AND SOMEONE COMES IN WITH A DOME CONSTRUCTION AND THEY MEET ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND ZONING CODES AS FAR AS SETBACK AND THAT KIND OF THING, YOU ARE HERE TO KEEP THAT KIND OF THING FROM HAPPENING. PADL: WAIT A MINUTE. I MUST INTERRUPT HERE. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY BUT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH COMMERCIAL. THAT IS THE ONLY THING WE WORRY ABOUT. ALTHOUGH THE EXAMPLES YOU GAVE ARE VERY GOOD, BUT I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT EXAMPLES WE DEAL WITH. WE HAVE A SIGN CODE IN TEQUESTA THAT SAYS THAT FREE STANDING SIGNS CANNOT BE MORE THAN 25' HIGH. INVARIABLY WHAT WE DO HERE IS NEGOTIATE WITH THE PEOPLE LIKE WHAT WE DID OVER HERE AT THE BANK. THEY WANTED TO PUT ONE UP 16' HIGH BUT SOME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WANTED IT TO BE 14' OR 12' . THE ORDINANCE IS 25' , AND IN ORDER TO LET THEM GET THROUGH 16' . WE MADE THEM PUT A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS EXTRA INTO LANDSCAPING. NOW I WANT YOU TO DISCUSS THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS. WE ARE EXERCISING AUTHORITY THAT WE REALLY DON' T HAVE AND WHEN WE DID HAVE A GOOD CASE OF STOPPING THAT BLACK MONSTER FROM BEING BUILT ON U. S. HWY. ONE. WE WERE OVERWHELMED. THEY TOOK IT TO COUNCIL AND JUST PUSHED IT THROUGH. WHAT RECOURSE DO WE REALLY HAVE? SKIP: I WILL ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. AND I INTEND ON ADDRESSING THOSE, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO GIVE YOU THIS BACKGROUND. ** QUESTION INAUDIBLE TO CLERK. SCOTT: WE DO FOR MULTI FAMILY. THE ONLY THING EXEMPT IS R-1 1'1�ID R-1A. Pave 3 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SK'P: I THINK YOU NEED THE BACKGROUND THAT I AM GIVING YOU IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR AUTHORITY IS, THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO. I AM TELLING YOU WHY YOU EXIST AND YOU EXIST TO CEP THE RADICAL TYPE OF THING FROM HAPPENING WITHIN A COMMUNITY AND OFTEN TIMES THE BOARD WILL GO BDVOND THAT. YOU HAVE SEVERAL m. , NBJECTIVE STANDARDS IN YOUlt CebE AND YOU EVEN DEFINE SOME OF-YOUR SUBJECTIVE STANDARDS. YOU HAVE DEFINITIONS. LESLIE: I DON' T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH STANDARDS, PERSONALLY. I MEAN YOU ARE SAYING THIS IS A GREACODE. I DON' T THINK SO. SKIP: IT IS, IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST THAT I HAVE SEEN, BUT YOU COULD USE MORE STANDARDS AND YOU COULD USE LESS SUBJECTIVE STANDARDS. LESLIE: IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR OS. SCOTT: PREVIOUS BOARDS HAVE ALWAYS COMMENTED ABOUT ALL THE ADJECTIVES. THE "WOULDN'T IT BE NICE TO DO THIS" KIND OF STUFF AND "YOU SHOULD TRY TO DO THIS" AND IN CERTAIN CASES IT SAYS THINGS LIKE "HONEST DESIGN CONCEPTS", NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN ABLE TO DEFINE THOSE WELL. SKIP: THEY HAVE NOT BEEN DEFINED WELL. BUT AT LEAST IN THIS ORDINANCE THEY HAVE BEEN DEFINED. "HONEST DESIGN CONSTRUCTION" CONCERNS PROPER DESIGN OF ALL WORK IN ITS DETAILS, THE USE OF WEATHER RESISTANT MATERIALS, ETC. NOW THAT IS A SUBJECTIVE DEFINITION BECAUSE WHO IS GOING TO SAY WHAT IS PROPER DESIGN. THAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT STAND UP IN COURT. LESLIE: CHEAP. POORLY DESIGNED WORK. SKIP: THATS THE TROUBLE, THAT IS SUBJECTIVE, WHAT IS CHEAP TO YOU. LESLIE, MAY NOT BE CHEAP TO SOMEBODY ELSE AND THAT IS WHERE THE BOARD CAN GET INTO TROUBLE. SCOTT: WE HAVE HAD MEETINGS WHERE FIVE MEMBERS HAD FIVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AS TO WHAT THAT MEANT, WITH A PARTICULAR REVIEW. SKIP: NOW LET ME SAY AGAIN. WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH IS NOT UNUSUAL. IN FACT, IN ANOTHER COMMUNITY I REPRESENT, I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO THE SAME THING THAT I AM DOING HERE AND THAT IS TO TRY TO ADVISE THE BOARD WHERE THEIR AUTHORITY LEAVES OFF. TAKE YOUR EXAMPLE OF THE SIGN. IF YOU HAVE A SIGN CODE WHICH ALLOWS A SIGN TO GO 60' AND A FELLOW COMES IN AND HE HAS GOOD DESIGN AND EVERYTHING IS IN CONFORMITY BUT HIS SIGN IS HIGHER THAN YOU' D LIKE TO SEE IT, BUT IT IS WITHIN THE CODE. YOU START GETTING INTO PROBLEMS IN THOSE AREAS. . Page 4 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 LESLIE: WE GET THEM TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. PAUL: WE DO IT ALL THE TIME AND WE GET AWAY WITH IT. ITS AMAZING. SKIP: THATS THE JOINT, r6U DO GET AWAY WITH IT. PAUL: YES• BECAUSE-THEY DON' T WANT TO GO TO COURT. SKIP: THAT' S PART OF IT. ALOT OF THE TIME THEY MAY THINK THAT' S A GOOD IDEA. =id WOULD SAY THIS, THAT IF HE COMES 1TO AN AREA WHERE ALL THE SIGNS OR THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THEM ARE 20' HIGH AND THE SIGN CODE ALLOWS THE SIGN TO BE 50' HIGH, AND HE HAS THIS ONE SIGN OUT ON THE HIGHWAY THAT' S STICKING UP 50' AND THE REST ARE 20' , I THINK IT' S QUESTIONABLE, BUT I THINK AS A COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD YOU SHOULD DO ALL YOU CAN TO SEE THAT HE COMES INTO CONFORMITY WITH THE REST OF THE SIGNS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. NOW I SAY IT' S QUESTIONABLE BECAUSE IF HE TAKES YOU TO COURT AND HE SAYS, "LOOK. THE SIGN CODE SAYS I CAN HAVE 50' , I THINK THIS SIGN IS IN GOOD TASTE, GOOD DESIGN, ETC". I WOULD SAY YOUR CHANCES ARE NOT GOOD OF BEING UPHELD IN COURT. BUT. THAT IS THE REASON YOU ARE HERE. YOU' RE HERE TO GIVE THIS FELLOW ADVICE. HE DOESN' T KNOW YOUR COMMUNITY A LOT OF TIMES. ALOT OF TIMES THEY WILL FIGHT YOU BUT MOST OF THE TIME THEY ARE NOT GOING TO FIGHT YOU. BUT. WHERE YOU GET INTO A SITUATION WHERE A FELLOW COMES IN AND ALL THE SIGNS IN THAT AREA ARE 20' AND HIS IS GOING TO BE 25' OR SOMETHING AND YOUR SIGN CODE ALLOWS 50' , I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU FIGHT THAT KIND OF A CASE. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT IF YOU LIKE ONE SHADE OF PINK BETTER THAN ANOTHER SHADE OF PINK IN A SHOPPING CENTER. THAT YOU FIGHT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. GO AHEAD AND GIVE THE ADVICE, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE HERE FOR BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW THE COMMUNITY AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. THIS THING IS HERE TO KEEP, SAY FOR INSTANCE, ALL THE SHOPPING CENTERS ARE EARTHTONES AND SOMEONE COMES IN AND WANTS A RED BUILDING. THATS WHY THAT IS HERE, TO ALLY GOING OFF THE DEEP END. IF YOU LIKE ONE SHADE DOFOBROWN VERSES ANOTHER SHADE OF BROWN, IT' S GOING TO BE VERY TOUGH FOR YOU TO IMPOSE YOUR VIEWS. IT WILL NOT BE UPHELD IN COURT AND I THINK A GOOD WAY TO GAUGE WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY OBTRUSIVE AND REALLY AGAINST COMMUNITY STANDARDS IS HOW EVERYBODY ELSE ON YOUR BOARD FEELS AND IF IT' S IN A STATE OF SHOCK, THEN I THINK YOU ARE ON PRETTY GOOD GROUNDS IN DENYING SOMEBODY' S APPLICATION. BUT IF IT' S SORT OF ON THE LINE, AND YOU SEE THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE SAYING, WELL THIS ISN' T SO BAD. AND YOU JUST HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION, FOR YOU TO IMPOSE YOUR OPINION ON THAT PERSON WHEN ITS NOT THAT DRASTIC A SITUATION I THINK IT IS GOING TO CAUSE YOU PROBLEMS. I THINK AT THAT POINT YOU CAN SEE THAT PERHAPS IF IT WERE CHALLENGED THAT YOU WOULD BE ABUSING THE AUTHORITY. •Pave 5 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 LESLIE: I THINK WE ALL REALIZE THAT. JANET: IT SEEMS LIKE MOST OF OUR DECISIONS CAN BE CHALLENGED IN COURT. PAUL: THERE miS NO QUESTION THAT THEY alIM BE CHALLENGED IN COURT:` ditty OF THEM CAN. WHAT I WAKT TO KNOW IS WHAT IS THE RECOURSE. BIKE THIS THING WE HAD WITH THE BANK, IF WE HAD REJECTED THEIR SIGN AT 16' , NOW THEY CAN APPEAL IT TO COUNCIL AND THERE' S NO WAY THE COUNCIL WOULD REJECT A 16' SIGN. SCOTT: THEY ALREADY CALLED ON THAT ISSUE A ASKED WHAT THE RECOURSE WAS. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SIGN THAT YOU ATTACHED TO THE PROJECT. THEY FELT THEY HAD NO CONTROL OVER IT. LESLIE: IN REFERENCE TO THAT, WE WERE AWFULLY KIND ABOUT THE CRUMMY LANDSCAPING THAT IS LEFT THERE. PAUL: THAT IS NOT OUR PREROGATIVE. THEY ARE WITHIN THE LAW. WE DON' T HAVE AN ORDINANCE ON THAT. LESLIE: NO. THAT IS OUR PREROGATIVE BECAUSE THE LANDSCAPING WAS NOT UP TO PAR. SCOTT: THE PROBLEM IS HE IS THE SECOND OWNER. HE BOUGHT A BUILDING THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO WE HAD THE AGREEMENT AND ARRANGEMENT WITH FAILED TO COMPLY PROPERLY IN THAT THE TREES DIED. BUT THEY DIDN' T DIE UNTIL TWO YEARS LATER WHEN THE NEW OWNER OWNS THE BUILDING. LESLIE: WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT THAT? CAN' T WE HOLD THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE? SKIP: IT DOESN' T GO WITH THE OWNER, IT GOES WITH THE LAND. I GUESS WHAT YOU HAVE TO TRY TO DO IS MAKE SURE WHEN YOU IMPOSE CERTAIN CONDITIONS ON A PROPERTY THAT THERE IS AS MUCH OF A RECORD AS POSSIBLE. IN FACT, IF YOU DO HAVE CERTAIN CONDITIONS WHICH RUN WITH THE LAND, WE OUGHT TO HAVE RECORDED INSTRUMENTS, WHICH WHEN THAT PERSON DOES BUY, HE KNOWS WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE. BUT HERE IS THE THING. IT' S ONE THING IF A FELLOW COMES IN AND HE IS REBUILDING HIS PROJECT AND YOU SAY NOW I' VE GOT SOME LEVERAGE TO BRING HIM UP TO PAR WITH THE LANDSCAPING, IT' S ANOTHER THING IF A FELLOW SAY FOR INSTANCE, WITHIN A SHOPPING CENTER WANTS TO COME IN AND PUT A SIGN IN AND YOU TELL HIM THAT WELL SINCE YOU WANT TO PUT THE SIGN IN YOU ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE TO REPAINT YOUR BUILDING BECAUSE WE DON' T LIKE THIS COLOR AND YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING THE LANDSCAPING UP TO PAR. Page 6 C. A. B. Workshop July 20. 1988 I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DOING, YOU' VE GOT A POINT THERE WHERE YCU' VE GOT SOME LEVERAGE AND YOU THINK LETS USE THIS TO MAKE HIM COME UP TO PAR. I THINK ITS OKAY TO TRY THAT BUT CARRYING THAT TOO FAR I DON' T THINK WOULD BE SUSTAINED. I DON' T THINK YOU COULD SUSTAIN THAT CONDITION IN COURT. .111W sr. PAUL: THERE' S NO QUESTIC IT WOULDN' T WORK IN COURT. I' ` CONCERNED WHETHER THIS DEVELOPER IS EVEN GOING TO GET THROUGH THE COUNCIL WITH THAT IF HE DECIDES TO FIGHT IT. IT WAS EXTORTION, IS WHAT WE PULLED ON HIM. SKIP: NO BUT IT IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO GET THINGS CLEANED UP. PAUL: THEY AGREED IT WAS A NECESSARY THING TO DO. IT IS A QUESTION NOW, THEY'RE SITTING BACK AND SAYING, "THIS IS GOING TO COST US A FORTUNE • DO WE REALLY HAVE TO DO IT?" THEY ONLY AGREED TO IT SO THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THEIR SIGN. LESLIE: THAT' S HOGWASH, "ITS GOING TO COST A FORTUNE". JANET: ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS CONCERNED WITH IS THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED, IT CAME IN FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL, A CERTAIN PERCENT OF THE LAND WAS ALLOCATED FOR LANDSCAPING, NOW THEY CAME IN, A NEW OWNER AND THEY WANTED TO ADD SIGNS WHICH MEANT THE ELIMINATION OF SOME OF THE PARKING SPACES. NOW THAT TO ME IS A CHANGE IN THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AND IT WAS A DECREASE IN THE LANDSCAPING TO AFFORD THEM ROOM TO PUT SIGNAGE. LESLIE: WE WERE BEING NICE GUYS. I WOULD THINK WE COULD STICK TO THE ORIGINAL FORMULA. SKIP: IF YOU ARE AMENDING THAT, THEN I THINK IT IS FAIR GAME TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE ENTIRE THING. THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO ME IS THAT SOMEBODY IS JUST COMING IN FOR A FREE STAND SIGN AND THEN YOU ARE TRYING TO TIE EVERYTHING INTO THE SIGN. PAUL: THAT' S THE WAY THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO TRY TO PRESENT IT IF HE GOES TO THE COUNCIL. SKIP: I THINK IF HE WANTS TO PUT IN A SIGN AND HE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY PARKING SPACES FROM A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN THEN IN THAT INSTANCE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE MERIT IN ALLOWING YOU TO GO INTO THE PREVIOUS SITE PLAN AND SAY,. "LOOK IF YOU ARE GOING TO TAKE THESE AWAY, HOW ABOUT GIVING US THIS?" YOU ARE HERE MORE FOR NEGOTIATION THEN ANYTHING ELSE. THAT' S WHY IT' S DIFFICULT WHEN IT GETS TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN GET A HARD NOSED DEVELOPER IN HERE AND HE SAYS, "BY GOD, I' M GOING TO WHAT I WANT TO DO, " AND THEN THAT' S WHERE YOU GET INTO PROBLEMS. DO Pave 7 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 PAUL: FORTUNATELY, MOST OF THEM ARE VERY COOPERATIVE. SKIP: MOST PEOPLE WHO COME INTO A COMMUNITY WANT _ TO _ BE COOPERATIVE. ITS JUST THOSE VERY FEW INSTANCES THAT CAN CAUSES YOU PROBLEMS. 411111 PAUL: I MEAN PAM!LIN CHANGED THE COLOR OF HIS BUILDING- BECAUSE WE TOLD HIM WE DIDN' T LIKE THE WAY IT CLASHED WITH THE CENTERS, SCOTT: AND THEY CHANGED THE NAME OF THE SHOPPING CENTER BECAUSE THE MAYOR DIDN' T LIKE IT. SKIP: REALLY? WHAT WAS THE PREVIOUS NAME? SCOTT: IT IS COUNTY LINE PLAZA NOW. ORIGINALLY IT WAS PLAZA AT TEQUESTA. LESLIE: IT WAS SO CLOSE TO THE OTHERS WE HAD. JANET: WHAT LEGAL RECOURSE IS THERE IF THEY WANT TO COME IN AND ELIMINATE PARKING SPACES? WHERE DO THEY STAND FOR THAT, TO PUT A SIGN THAT' ALLOWED UNDER CODE? SCOTT: FIRST, LET ME CLARIFY SOMETHING. THEY UT THEMSELVES IN VIOLATION OF THE ZONING CODE. THEY HAT THE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT THEY COULD DO THIS. FACED WI THIS ALOT. THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT UP FRONT THAT AA BUILDING HAVE ANY SIGNAGE. THEY ARE ALLOWED SIGNAGE, BUT AT WHA TIME THEY GET TENANTS, MAJOR TENANTS, MAKE CHANGES. THEY EY CAINT IE IN FOR THEIR SIGNS. IT' S WHEN THEY VIOLATE REQUIRED PARKING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD FIRST, GET OUT OF THE WAY FIRST IN ORDER TO TAKE UP A SPACE TWOISSUE SIGNAGE. THIS WAS NOT THE PROBLEM AT THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING. BILL: THE OTHER PROBLEM WAS THAT THEY DID NOT COME IN REEQUESTING TO USE A PARKING SPACE, WE PUSHED THAT ON THEM BECAUSE THEY HAD TO MOVE THE SIGN BACK. THEY ORIGINALLY DID NOT NEED THAT PARKING SPACE. THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS BECAUSE OF THE MOVING OF THE ROAD. SCOTT: RIGHT. WE CHANGED OUR SIGN CODE FROM THE TIME THAT BUILDING WAS SITE PLAN REVIEWED AND PERMITTED. WE CHANGED OUR SIGN CODE TO REQUIRE A FRONT YARD SETBACK. THEY HAD PROVIDED A SIGN TRIANGLE PER OUR OLD CODE WHICH HAD NO SETBACK, BY VIRTUE OF OUR NEW SIGN CODE, THEY WERE FORCED BACK WHICH TOOK TWO PARKING SPACES. BUT IT STILL DID NOT PUT THEM IN JEOPARDY OF THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. Pace 8 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 i SKIP: NOT THEIR REQUIRED PARKING? AND THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES WEREN' T NECESSARILY PART OF THE APPROVAL OF THE SITE PLAN? IT WASNLT- STATED YOU SHALL HAVE SO MANY PARKS SPACES? SCOTT: NO. -am- SKIP: SEE. IF THEY WERE TAKING AWAY REQUIRED PARKING SPACES THEI: IT WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A HANDLE ON IT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE ON IT. LESLIE: WHAT THE ARE STRESSING TO ME IN THAT SITUATION IS THAT THEY ARE REMOVING TREES THAT ARE NEXT TO THE UNIT THAT ARE DEAD AND NOT REPLACING THEM. SO THEY HAVE ALTERED THEIR ORIGINAL SITE PLAN. SCOTT: WELL WE CAN GET THEM TO REPLACE THE TREES. THE PROBLEM THERE WAS THAT ONE OF THE PALM TREES SMASHED THROUGH THE GLASS BUILDING. THEY WERE PLANTED RIGHT UP AGAINST THE BUILDING AND ONE OF THEM CRACKED THE GLASS RIGHT IN TWO ON THE SECOND FLOOR. SKIP: WHERE IS THIS? SCOTT: CORPORATE CENTER. RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF OLD DIXIE AND TEQUESTA DRIVE. JANET: WHEN THEY TAKE THOSE PALM TREES DOWN, THAT' S GOING TO LOOK SO BARREN. SCOTT: THEY NEED TO PUT SOMETHING BACK. I' M CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE HERE. I HAVE TO ENFORCE THINGS BEYOND WHAT YOU DO AND I' M ALSO THE KEEPER OF THE HEALTH. SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE VILLAGE. I ALSO HAVE A REAL CONCERN IF PALM TREES SMASH THROUGH GLASS OFFICES ON THE SECOND FLOOR. LESLIE: A PALM FROND WENT THROUGH THE BUILDING? SCOTT: NO. THE TREE IS SO CLOSE TO THE BUILDING THAT WHEN THE WIND HIT, THE ENTIRE TOP HIT THE WINDOW. LESLIE: WAS IT A DEAD TREE? SCOTT: NO, IT WAS A LIVE TREE. THEY HAD TO REMOVE IT. THE INSURANCE SAID. "WE WILL PAY FOR THIS ONE. BUT YOU GET THE TREE OUT OF THERE". I PRETTY MUCH HAD TO AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THAT DOESN' T MEAN THEY CAN' T PUT SOMETHING LOWER THERE. LESLIE: WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED THAT INSTEAD OF THE OAK TREES THAT THEY PUT PALM TREES, THEN THAT WOULD BALANCE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. Pace 9 C. A. B. Workshop Ju.y 20, 1988 SC_'TT: PAUL, THE THREE STORY CLASS BUILDING, YOUR FAVORITE PR: ECT, THAT ALSO IS GOING TO BE FACED WITH THIS SITUATION. THEE_-HAVE SOME PALM TREES THAT ARE UP CLOSE TO IT, AT OUR REQUEST. THEY HAVE ALL KINDS OF PALM RREES IN CLUSTERS RIGHT UP AGAINEX THE GLASS. ADL: BUT THAT' S ALL TEMPERED GLASS. JANET: WELL, WHY ISN' T THAT ADDRESSED DURING THE SITE PLAN STAGE? lE SCOTT: IT IS. IT' S TALKED ABOUT, BUT I DON' T GET INVOLVED IN THE AESTHETIC CONCERNS, ONLY THE TECHNICAL ONES. LESLIE: YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DO, THEY HAVE A LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENT AND THEY PUSH IT UP NEXT TO THE BUILDING AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN SO THEY CAN USE ALL THE OTHER SPACE FOR PARKING. SKIP: WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE ATTENTIVE TO AT THIS LEVEL BECAUSE SCOTT IS NOT GOING TO CALL OUT TO THE ATTENTION OF COUNCIL WHEN THEY DO THEIR SITE PLAN. SO THAT IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT AND SUGGEST THOSE ARE A LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO THE BUILDING. PAUL: WE DID MAKE THE DARTH VADER BUILDING PUT UP MORE PALM TREES. SCOTT: THE WHOLE IDEA THERE WAS SCREEN IT, HIDE IT, BUFFER IT. PAUL: HOPEFULLY IN A HURRICANE THE PALM TREES WILL KNOCK THE BUILDING DOWN. LESLIE: PALM TREES DON' T FALL IN HURRICANES. PAUL: NOW THAT WAS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE WHERE, AS FAR AS I' M CONCERNED, OUR C.A. B. , THE WHOLE PHILOSOPHY FAILED. SKIP: WELL, YOU DIDN'T APPROVE IT, DID YOU? SCOTT: YES, RELUCTANTLY THEY DID. THEY KIND OF APPROVED IT UNDER DURESS. LESLIE: WE SHOULD HAVE NOT, BUT WE WERE THINKING THE SAME WAY AS YOU. HIS RATIONALE WAS, LOOK, YOU HAVE ALL DIFFERENT STYLE BUILDINGS ALONG HWY. ONE AND THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN TELL ME THAT I CAN' T PUT MY BUILDING UP. WE ALL AGREED IT WAS A GOOD LOOKING BUILDING, IT IS GOOD LOOKING, IN A DIFFERENT SPOT. WE DIDN' T WANT IT IN THAT SPOT BUT HE SAID WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT STYLES, AND HE WAS RIGHT, WE DO HAVE ALL DIFFERENT STYLES. ' Pave 10 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 PAUL: WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO SAY WAS THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE OR PROJECT IS IN HARMONY WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS IN THE GENERAL AREA. AND HE , SAID, "NO, IT ISN' T", AND THAT WAS WHAT THEY CHALLENGED. SKIP: I THINK THAT 'TB YOUa RIGHT TO MAKE THAT.,KIN' - OF : mETERMINATION. THAT' S TOUGH, HAT IS NOT A GOOD STANDARD BUZ -IT IS THE ONLY KIND OF LANGUAGE YOU CAN PUT IN A COMMUNITY APPEARANCE PLAN. PAUL: SEE WHAT HAPPENED, SKIP, IS WHEN HE CAME TO COUNCIL, RE HAD HIS EXPERT FROM PALM BEACH AND FROM BOCA SAYING, "WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS BUILDING IN PALM BEACH AND WHERE THE HELL DO YOU PEOPLE GET OFF?" SO WE WERE DEAD IN THE WATER. . THE WORST THING WAS, IF YOU RECALL, WE REQUESTED OUR ILLUSTRIOUS PLANNING COMMISSION TO GIVE US A THEME BECAUSE THAT WAS THE OTHER THING. SCOTT: REMEMBER, THIS IS THE ONLY BUILDING THAT WE ALSO HAD THE PLANNING COMMISSION INVOLVED IN THE REVIEW PROCESS. PAUL: WE GAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE OPTION, WE THOUGHT, OF COMING UP WITH A SCHEME FOR TEQUESTA. IF WE HAD A SCHEME THAT WAS TEQUESTA BEIGE, THATS IT, NOTHING FURTHER. THE PLANNING BOARD REFUSED TO TAKE A STAND. WE DIDN' T HAVE ANY RECOURSE REALLY. FORTUNATELY, THERE HASN' T BEEN THE FUROR OVER THE DARTH VADER BUILDING THAT WE HAD OVER STEP SAVER. OT OF PEOPLE WHO THINK IT JUST DOESN' T BELONG, INCLUUDDINGAMYSELF. BUT THERE' S NOT VERY MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. LESLIE: WHAT ABOUT THE NEW UGLY BUILDING THAT' S GOING UP THATS NOT IN TEQUESTA, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO IT? PAUL: UNFORTUNATELY, THAT' S RIGHT ON THE JUPITER LINE. SKIP: WELL, YOU WERE TOLD IN ADVANCE THAT THERE WASN' T NECESSARILY A THEME ALONG THERE, BUT I THINK AFTER THE FACT, THAT THERE WAS A THEME. BOARD: THERE REALLY IS, A CONSERVATIVE -TYPE THEME. SCOTT: THERE WAS IN THE ORDINANCE GROUNDS TO DO WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO TOO. PAGE 419, SEC. 7-6, PARAGRAPH 1 9BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES WHICH ARE A PART OF A PRESENT OR FUTURE GROUP OR COMPLEX SHALL HAVE A UNITY OF CHARACTER AND DESIGN. WHEN THE AREA INVOLVED FORMS AN INTEGRAL PART OF, IS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OR OTHERWISE CLEARLY AFFECTS THE FUTURE OF ANY ESTABLISHED SECTION) RIGHT NEXT DOOR YOU HAVE A MIZNER/SPANISH, 222 BUILDING, AND THAT WAS BROUGHT UP ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. *Pave 11' C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SKIP: THAT IS A-LITTLE BIT SUBJECTIVE BUT IT' S TYPICAL AND : ' S GOOD LANGUAGE FOR YOU TO HAVE USED IN THAT PARTICULAR EVENT. BUT IN ANSWER TO LESLIE' S COMMENT ABOUT THERE NOT BEING ENOUGH OBJECTIVITL- IN HERE. IT CAN ALWAYS USE MORE OBJECTIVITY IN ORDER TO BE SUSTAINED MORE. BUT THE MORE OBJECTIVITY YOU PUT IN IT. THE"LESS DIFCRETION YOU HAVE. BUT 'CL E MORE VALID IT MAKES YOUR ORDINANCE. 'BUT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BF.ABLE TO COME UP WITH AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD FOR INSTANCE WHICH MEETS THE CRITERIA THAT SCOTT JUST REFERRED TO HERE. HOW CAN YOU? THAT' S AS OBJECTIVE AS YOU CAN GET IS TO SAY THAT THE BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES HAVE A UNITY OF CHARACTER IN DESIGN. A RELATIONSHIP OF FORMS AND USE. OBJECTIVE STANDARDS ARE: 15' SIDE YARD. 50' SIGNS. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS. WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE AND THE COUNCIL CAN IN THEIR ORDINANCES PUT AS MANY OBJECTIVE STANDARDS AS THEY WANT. IT' S TOUGH IN A COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD ORDINANCE WHERE YOU' RE SITTING HERE TRYING TO GIVE GUIDANCE TO THESE PEOPLE AS TO WHAT IS IN CONFORMITY WITH THE COMMUNITY. TO PUT YOUR OWN OBJECTIVE STANDARDS. I' M SURPRISED THAT YOU HAVE AS MANY AS YOU DO. AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD FOR INSTANCE IS ( ON PAGE 420 WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT EXTERIOR LIGHTING) WHERE YOU SAY, "LIGHTING IS NOT TO BE USED AS A FORM OF ADVERTISING IN A MANNER THAT IS NOT COMPATIBLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ETC". THAT IS AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD. PAUL: THEY USE THAT ONE TO PROHIBIT NEON AND THE TIVOLIE LIGHTING. WHICH IS A SHAME. SKIP: LOOK AT 4110, 11. 12, & 13. THOSE ARE ALL OBJECTIVE AND THOSE YOU WILL HAVE NO TROUBLE SUSTAINING IN COURT. PAUL: FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE GOING TO BE REVIEWING THIS PARKING LOT HERE VERY SHORTLY WHICH IS A TOUCHY ONE BECAUSE IT' S OWNED BY THE VILLAGE, BUT THE OWNERS OF THE BUSINESSES THERE ARE COMING UP WITH A PROPOSAL TO REDO THIS PARKING LOT. ONE OF THE EYESORES THERE IS AN ARRAY OF VENDING MACHINES. THE NEWSPAPERS. SKIP: ARE THOSE ON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PROPERTY? SCOTT: THEY ARE PARTLY ON PUBLIC AND PARTLY PRIVATE. THE FIRST FEW ARE ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT THEY ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. PAUL: WHAT DO YOU MEAN PRIVATE PROPERTY? TEQUESTA OWNS THAT PARKING LOT. SCOTT: I MEAN THEY ARE NOT ON PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY. PAUL: OKAY. THEY WILL BE PUT IN THE CORNER. THE QUESTION IS, IN TEQUESTA, WILL IT TAKE A SEPARATE ORDINANCE LIKE IF WE WANT TO CLEAN UP NEWS RACKS? • Pave 12 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SKIP: YOU NEED A SEPARATE ORDINANCE. THE PRECEDENTS ARE THERE TC ALLOW YOU TO REGULATE NEWS RACKS BUT NOT TO PROHIBIT THEM. PAUL: _I- DON' T MEAN TO PROHIBIT THEM, BUT IT' S AN UGLY ARRAY OF STUFF. CAN WE MAKE THEM UNIFORM? fmir SKIB` 'SAY, FOR INSTANCE, YOU ARE DEALING WITH A PRIVATE PROPERTY I THINK YES, YOU CAN REQUIRE A PERSON WHO IS GOING TO HAVE VENDING MACHINES OR NEWSPAPER MACHINES ON HIS PROPERTY TO SCREEN THEM, PUT THEM IN WOOD FRAMES, STANDARDIZE THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU ARE GOING TWHAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT WHEN YOU START TELLING, YOU ARE TELLING THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO KEEP THEIR PROPERTY LOOKING NICE. WHEN YOU START TELLING THE NEWSPAPER PEOPLE WHERE THEY HAVE TO GET PERMITS, THEY HAVE ATTEMPTED TO SAY THAT YOU SHOULDN' T HAVE THEM MORE THAN EVERY 500 FEET AND THAT SORT OF THING AND THEY ULTIMATELY GET ATTACKED AND THE COURTS SAY THIS IS A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT WHICH YOU ARE BREACHING IF YOUR REGULATIONS ARE NOT REASONABLE. YOUR REGULATIONS HAVE TO BE REASONABLE AND THEY HAVE TO BE AIMED AT PUBLIC SAFETY. FOR INSTANCE, I THINK ALONG TEQUESTA DRIVE HERE IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO REQUIRE THEM TO BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE OFF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY BECAUSE YOU DON' T WANT PEOPLE STOPPING ALONG TEQUESTA DRIVE TO GET A NEWSPAPER. PAUL: THAT' S A PROBLEM OVER HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS BOARD WILL ADDRESS IS THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THOSE NEWSPAPER VENDING MACHINES INSTEAD OF JUST IN A STRAIGHT ROW OF PUTTING THEM IN A CORNER AND LANDSCAPING THEM. ARE THE NEWSPAPER COMPANIES GOING TO BE UPSET BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN WON' T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE IF THEY ARE HIDDEN BY LANDSCAPING. ARE WE GOING TO RUN INTO A PROBLEM WITH THAT? SKIP: YOU MIGHT, BUT I THINK AS LONG AS YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, I DON' T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TO DO WITH US. PADL: THATS THE PROBLEM, THE VILLAGE OWNS THE LOT. SKIP: THAT'S ALL RIGHT, I THINK SINCE WE OWN THE LOT WE CAN TELL THEM WHERE ON THE LOT WE WANT THEIR VENDING MACHINES AND HOW WE WANT THEM LANDSCAPED PAUL: WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, RIGHT NOW THEY ARE SPREAD OUT. IF YOU PUT THEM IN A CORNER, YOU' RE GOING TO LOOSE 20 BY 20 FEET BECAUSE YOU CAN' T PARK IN THAT ANYWAY. WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS TO CONFINE THE VENDING MACHINES TO THAT 20' x 20' SQUARE INCLUDING PERIMETER LANDSCAPING AND JUST TO HAVE AN ENTRANCE WAY JUST WIDE ENOUGH TO GET INTO. Pave 13 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SKIP: I' M NOT GOING TO SAY YOU' RE NOT GOING TO GET A FIGHT FR2!'' THEM BECAUSE THEY REALLY WILL FIGHT YOU AT THE DROP OF A HAT. WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD THERE AND WE FINALLY _ -GOT THEM OUT. THE COURIER WAS THE WORST, WHICH REALLY SURPRISED ME. I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THEY WOULD HAVE WANTED TO GET ALONG --WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNY. _I GO? THE POST TIMES AND THE MIAMI€ 'HEA ALD OUT AND THE COURIER WAS THE LAST ONE TO GO. LESLIE: WELL, YOU' D BETTER NOT LET ME GET ANYWHERE NEAR IT. I INSULTED THAT CHARLES SCRIPTS THE OTHER DAY. I REALLY COMPLAINED THAT THEY DIDN' T ADVERTISE OUW 4TH OF JULY CELEBRATION ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE COURIER SO PEOPLE WOULD BE AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON OVER THERE. SCOTT: THE PROBLEM WE ARE HAVING WITH THE BOXES NEXT DOOR IS THE PARKING LOT COMES UP SHORT TO SERVE THE SHOPPING CENTER UNDER THE CURRENT FORMULAS, 112 PARKING SPACES SHORT. AND THOSE MACHINES ARE TAKING UP WHAT COULD BE THREE OR FOUR ADDITIONAL PARSING SPACES TO CLOSE THE GAP ON THE NON—CONFORMITY. SKIP: WELL, GET THEM OUT OF THERE. CAN' T YOU FIND A PLACE FOR THEM ON THE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THE STORES? SCOTT: THAT WOULD BE MY FEELING. THEY DO HAVE THE SAME ARRAY AT K—MART. PAUL: BUT WAIT A MINUTE NOW, YOU CAN' T USE THE 20' X 20' CORNER SO IF WE CONFINE THEM TO LANDSCAPING AND MACHINES AND 20' X 20' . SKIP: DON' T LET THEM TAKE OUT PARKING SPACES. SUGGEST THEY PUT THEM NEXT TO A BUILDING AND HAVE THEM ALL IN A NICE WOOD FRAME BOX WHERE THEY ARE ALL LINED UP. JANET: WHAT ARE THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITH REGARD TO THE NEWSPAPERS JUST COMING ON THEIR PROPERTY? SKIP: A PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO GIVE AUTHORITY FOR THEM TO COME ON THEIR PROPERTY. PAUL: I WAS JUST WONDERING. ON ALL THESE LITTLE VENDING MACHINES AND ESPECIALLY ALL THESE FREE NEWSPAPERS. WHO DID GIVE THEM PERMISSION? JANET: I HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND THEY JUST COME AND PUT THEIR BOXES ON THEM. SCOTT: I SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT ANY OF THEM HAVE EVER APPROACHED ANY OF THE OWNERS OF THE SHOPPING CENTER OR THE VILLAGE. • Pave 14 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 JANET: IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET THEM TO REMOVE THEM. SCOTT: WE HAVE HAD THE PROBLEM WHERE THEY' VE STUCK THEM IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. RIGHT IN A GUYS YARD. SKIP: I' VE FOUGHT THIS NEWS RACK BATTLE FOR MANY YS NOW SCOTT: I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT. I MEAN GIVE ME A BREAK. WE ARE NOT TELLING THEM THEY CAN' T PRINT THEIR NEWSPAPER AND THEY CAN' T DISSEMINATE IT TO THE PUBLIC. THEY HAVE CARRIED IT TO THE BOINT WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT YOU CAN' T EVEN TELL THEM WHERE TO PUT THE VENDING MACHINES AND FRANKLY I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE CROSSED THE LINE WITH THIS FIRST AMENDMENT THING. IT'S GOTTEN REALLY OUT OF HAND. SKIP: THE PROBLEM WITH THIS IS THAT IF YOU BACK THEM UP TO THE WALL. THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO FIGHT YOU. YOUR ORDINANCE TALKS ABOUT SYMBOLS ON BUILDINGS. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LOGOS? LIKE NO. 5: SYMBOLIC DESIGN FOR REASON OF ADVERTISING. SCOTT: GOOD ONE THERE WAS THE OLD PUBLIX. WHEN THEY MOVED OUT, THEY LEFT THE WINGS AND EVERYONE DRIVING BY SAYS LOOK, THAT WAS AN OLD PUBLIX. BECAUSE THEY LEFT THOSE WINGS UP ON THE BUILDING, THE OLD PUBLIX DESIGN. THAT WAS PART OF THEIR SYMBOLIC DESIGN OR LOGO, SO I WROTE TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD AND FORTUNATELY, THEY DID NOT FIGHT IT, THEY SENT A CREW IN AND IT' S GONE. SKIP: I DON' T THINK TEQUESTA GOES AS FAR AS ALOT OF COMMUNITIES BUT I AM FAMILIAR WITH ONE COMMUNITY THAT JUST DOES NOT ALLOW LOGO. FOR INSTANCE, MERRILL LYNCH WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PUT A BULL ON THE WINDOW AND THINGS LIKE THAT. BECAUSE ALL THEY WANT IS THE LETTERING TO DESIGNATE THE BUILDING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS OUT. I THINK IT' S PROBABLY A LITTLE LATE TO INSTITUTE THAT IN TEQUESTA. PAI1L: TEQUESTA DOESN' T HAVE ANY PROHIBITION ON SIGNS INSIDE THE WINDOW. YOU CAN CARRY NEON SIGNS INSIDE THE WINDOW IN TEQUESTA. SKIP: WELL. THAT'8 BAD. SCOTT: FOR THE MOST PART. IF YOU HANG IT INTERIOR, WE DON' T REGULATE IT. OTHER THAN THE 200 SQ. IN. THING THAT WE WENT TO COURT WITH. ' Pave 15 C. A. B. Workshop J::1 y 20. 1988 LESLIE: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SUGGESTION. I DEFINITELY THINK WF NEED SOME KIND OF LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE ORDINANCE. LIKE WHEN YOU SEE THE DEAD TREES IN THE SHOPPING CENTERS AGAIN AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU SEE THE GIANT POTHOLES, NOW ISN' T THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT? a AM E mom SCOTT: NO. IT' S PRIVATE PROPERTY-;AND THE POLICE DEPT. CAN' T ISSUE 'TICKETS WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE POLICE DEPT. LOSES ALL CONTROL WHEN THEY ENTER PRIVATE PROPERTY SHOPPING CENTERS. SKIP: SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I' VE TALKED ABOUT AMORTIZING THE LANDSCAPING CODE FOR YEARS NOW. THAT MEANS, YOUR SIGN CODE. YOU HAVE AN AMORTIZATION CLAUSE IN THERE. YOU CAN' T PASS A SIGN CODE AND THEN MAKE EVERYBODY COMPLY WITH IT RIGHT AWAY. BUT YOU CAN AMORTIZE IT SO THAT THEY HAVE A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME TO AMORTIZE THEIR DEBT. IF THEY HAVE PAID $5,000 FOR THEIR SIGN. OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AND YOU CAN' T MAKE THEM COME INTO COMPLIANCE IMMEDIATELY BUT. IF YOU GIVE THEM 10 YEARS OR 5 YEARS TO AMORTIZE THEIR 65000 DEBT. YOU CAN SAY BY THE YEAR 2005 ALL SIGNS WILL COMPLY WITH THIS CODE. YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING WITH LANDSCAPING. NOW THE PROBLEM YOU ARE HAVING WITH SOME OF THESE SHOPPING CENTERS IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS WELL THEY ARE GRANDFATHERED IN. WE CAN' T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEM. BUT IF YOU WOULD PASS AN ORDINANCE. PASS A LANDSCAPING CODE WHICH REQUIRES A CERTAIN MOUNT OF LANDSCAPING WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, ETC. AND YOU AMORTIZE IT YOU COULD EVENTUALLY GET THEM TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS 10 YEARS AGO. IF WE HAD DONE IT BACK THEN, PEOPLE WOULD NOW BE COMING INTO COMPLIANCE. PAUL: IS IT POSSIBLE FOR SPECIAL CASES? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GEE AND JENSON HAS PROPOSED WE CONSIDER IS A SPECIAL LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENT FOR TEQUESTA DRIVE. THAT BLOCK U. S. HWY. ONE TO OLD DIXIE. SCOTT: WITH DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAN OTHER AREAS. LIKE A LANDSCAPE ZONE.. PAUL: WE ARE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT DIVIDED SECTION. WHAT THEY PROPOSE IS THAT PERHAPS WE COULD INVOKE A HIGHER SET OF STANDARDS FOR THAT AREA. SKIP: IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SPECIFIC ZONE. YOU CAN' T HAVE DIFFERENT STANDARDS WITHIN A ZONING CLASSIFICATION THAN YOU DO WITH OTHER AREAS WITHIN THAT SAME ZONING CLASSIFICATION. PAUL: COULD WE DO IT FOR JUST TEQUESTA DRIVE? Pace 16 C. A. B. Workshop July 20. 1988 SKIP: YOU WOULD ALMOST HAVE TO DECLARE A SPECIFIC ZONING CLASSIFICATION FOR TEQUESTA DRIVE. AND THERE WOULD BE NO REASON WHY YOU COULDN' T DO THAT. SCOTT: WHAT ABOUT OVERLAY ZONING. AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO AUS DUNG THE WORKSHOPS ON THE Z6NINGeODE? HAVING THE SEPARATE SETS OF ZONING CRITERIA THAT'YOU CAN OVERLAY ONE DISTRICT WITH. SKIP: YOU CAN DO THAT. 1LINIUL: SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF = U FEEL STRONGLY ENOUGH ABOUT IT. THERE YOU WANT A SHORT AMORTIZATION PERIOD. THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO UPGRADE THAT ONE SECTION. SCOTT: THE THINKING THERE WAS TO BRING EVERYONE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA INTO COMPLIANCE QUICKER THAN WHAT A NORMAL VILLAGE WIDE WOULD DO. SKIP: YES, YOU MEAN LIKE THE SHOPPING CENTERS ON BOTH SIDES? IF IT IS GOING TO COST THEM $50,000 TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE YOU JUST CAN' T SAY, "WELL BECAUSE WE' RE IMPROVING TEQUESTA DRIVE. YOU SHALL COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITHIN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS". YOU CAN' T DO THAT. IT WON' T STAND UP. YOU CAN IMPOSE YOUR CODE, AMMEND YOUR ZONING CODE TO REQUIRE CERTAIN THINGS. AND ANYBODY THAT DOES ANYTHING IN THERE HAS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE. PAUL: WE' RE ASSUMING THAT SOONER OR LATER THEY ARE GOING TO GET A TENANT FOR THE OLD PUBLIX AND COME IN AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND K-MART TOO. LESLIE: AND YOU CAN BE REAL STRICT WITH EVERYTHING AND NEGOTIATE YOUR TERMS. SKIP: BUT UNLESS THEY COME IN AND DO SOME MAJOR RENOVATIONS. YOU WON' T HAVE ANY LEVERAGE. YOU CAN' T MAKE THEM COME INTO COMPLIANCE JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE MOVING IN. Pam: WELL, WE KNOW THEY ARE MOVING OUT THERE, BUT WE DON' T KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN. THEY MIGHT JUST PUT IN TENANTS AND NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES STRUCTURALLY TO THE CENTER. SCOTT: OBVIOUSLY, IT' S IN EVERYONE' S BEST INTEREST TO GET A NEW LANDSCAPE CODE WITH AN AMORTIZATION FEATURE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN. JANET: WHY HAS IT BEEN SO LONG? ' Pave 17 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SKIP: THE COUNCIL HAS ALREADY STARTED. I THINK THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ONE. SCOTT: I HAVE SENT- FOR ALL OF THE AREA LANDSCAPE CODES FROM BOCA TO HERE. BOARD: WE HAVF„THEM. SCOTT: WELL, WE HAVE UPGRADED THEM AGAIN AND WE HAVE SENT FOR SOME NEW CRITERIA AND WE ARE PUTTING PACKETS TOGETHER AND WE ARE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO GET THE PROGRAM ROLLING AGAIN. PAUL: LAST TIME YOU HAD SOME MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION INVOLVED. SKIP: YES, BUT THAT' S THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE EVER REALLY GOTTEN STARTED ON IT. I AM A BIT SURPRISED THAT WE HAVEN' T DONE THAT. PAUL: EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE INTENT IS. WHENEVER WE REVIEW A NEW CENTER WE SAY LOOK, ITS 10% NOW BUT IT' S GOING TO BE 15%, YOU BETTER BE AWARE OF IT, AND OF COURSE EVERYONE IS AND WE ARE GETTING PROMISES FROM PANTLIN TOO. SCOTT: THAT' S ONE OF THE FIRST PROJECTS WHEREIN ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF SITE PLAN REVIEW WAS A SURVIVABILITY BOND FOR THE LANDSCAPING. PAUL: I LIKE THE SEPARATE ORDINANCE BETTER. SKIP: OF COURSE, WE DON' T HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. SCOTT: AND WE NEED THAT DESPERATELY. THERE ARE VERY STRICT PARAMETERS AROUND WHICH THAT HAS TO OPERATE AND HOW YOU PUT THEM TOGETHER. THEY HAVE ALOT OF POWER. NOT ANOTHER CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, THE ENFORCING BOARD. BOARD: WHO IS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER? SCOTT: GENE HOOVER. SKIP: SO. IN OTHER WORDS, ALL, YOU NEED TO DO IS APPOINT A BOARD? LESLIE: COULD WE DO? PAUL: WHAT DOES A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD DO? Pave 18 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SKIP: A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD REALLY ALMOST SERVES THE SAME FUNCTION AS A COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD IN REGARD TO THEIR . AUTHORITY. WHEN WE GOT RID OF THE MUNICIPAL COURTS BY ARTICLE 5 OF THE CONSTITUTION SEVERAL YEARS AGO, PEOPLE COMPLAINED THAT MUNICIPALITIES LOST THEIR AUTHORITY AND WE WERE GOING INTO COUNTY COURT AN:4iE COUNTY COURT JUDGES WEREN.T-PAYlpp ANY ATTENTION TO ,..- OUR,..ORDINANCES. SO JIM WATT PROPOSED CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WHICH WOULD BE A BOARD OF CITIZENS WHO WOULD, WHEN SOMEBODY HAS VIOLATED A BUILDING CODE OR OTHER CODES, LANDSCAPE CODE AND THAT SORT OF THING, SHOULD BE CITED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD. THEY WOULDN'T BE CITED FOR VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE AND GO TO COURT, THEY —WOULD COME BEFORE THIS COMMUNITY' S CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AND TRY TO PROVE WHY THEY HAVEN' T COMPLIED. MOST PEOPLE, 99% OF THE PEOPLE, ONCE CITED, WILL COMPLY. BUT, FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO DON' T, YOU ASSESS A FINE. YOU SAY, "YOU HAVE UNTIL JULY 17, TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. FROM THEN ON IT' S GOING TO BE 6100 A DAY FINE IF YOU DON' T COMPLY", AND THAT GETS PEOPLE TO COMPLY, USUALLY. PALM BEACH HAS A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WHICH WORKS VERY WELL. IT GETS PEOPLE TO COMPLY. I DON' T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED HERE BECAUSE, I DON' T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU HAVE IN TEQUESTA THAT FAIL OR JUST REFUSE TO COMPLY ONCE TOLD THEY SHOULD COMPLY BY YOUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. THIS BOARD SITS TO GET PEOPLE TO COMPLY IF YOUR CEO CAN' T CONVINCE THEM. LESLIE: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT MANY INSTANCES. BILL: IS HE DOING PRETTY GOOD ON WHAT HE' S DOING? SCOTT: IT' S A BATTLE 15vb'RY DAY. YOU MENTIONED THE CLEARING OF THOSE LOTS. WE' RE HAVING A TERRIBLE TIME JUST GETTING THOSE TAKEN CARE OF. FIRST OF ALL, THE LADY WHO OWNS THE LOT UP ON COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE THAT HAS ALL THE LIMBS ON IT, SHE DIDN' T PUT THEM THERE, SO SHE DOESN' T WANT TO REMOVE THEM. SO SHE GOES AND FINDS OUT WHO DID IT, BUT WE CAN' T GO AFTER THAT PERSON, BECAUSE IT' S HEARSAY ON HER PART, SHE DOESN' T WANT TO PAY TO HAVE THEM REMOVED. IT' S HER VACANT LOT, BUT SHE DOESN' T EVEN LIVE IN TOWN. WE NOTIFIED HER, BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE. IT HAS BEEN WEEKS AND WEEKS ON THAT SIMPLE LITTLE LOT, TRYING TO GET THOSE LIMBS OFF OF IT. WE' RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO ASK NICHOLS TO GO IN AND THEN GO THRU THE LIEN ASSESSMENT PROGRAM TO GET THE MONEY BACK. THAT' S SOMETHING THAT WE JUST DON' T LIKE TO DO; WHEREAS, A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WOULD WORK REAL WELL. SKIP: BUT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE, EVEN WITH A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, THAT SHE' S NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH. HIS OPTION NOW IS TO SIMPLY CITE HER AND TAKE HER TO COUNTY COURT. THAT' S WHY A CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD IS GOOD, BECAUSE YOU' RE THERE IN FRONT OF YOUR PEERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY KIND OF TRY TO TALK YOU INTO COMPLYING. Pave 19 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 LESLIE: UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS TOO BAD THAT SOMEONE PUT LIMBS ON THERE, I WOULD BE MAD TOO. IF SOMEONE WAS DUMPING TRASH ON MY PROPERTY. PAUL: WHERE THEY HAVE THESE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARDS. WHAT IS mm AVE APPEAL PROCESS, GOING TO CNTY CART? SKIP: YES, GOING TO CIRCUIT COURT. IF YOU ARE DISSATISFIED WITH THE DECISION OF. . . . LESLIE: ONE THING REAL FAST. WE HAD A QUESTION TODAY. WE HAVE TWO 'ALTERNATES AND WE LOVE TO HAVE THE ALTERNATES COME EVEN THOUGH THEY DON' T TAKE THE PLACE OF ANYONE. WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM COME EVERY TIME AND WE WANT THEIR INPUT, BUT VOTE IS NOT A REAL VOTE. LIKE IF WE GET INTO A STICKY SITUATION. AND WE ONLY HAVE THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HERE. WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE ALTERNATES? SKIP: LIKE IF YOU HAVE A FULL BOARD AND THE ALTERNATES COME AND YOU WANT THEM TO PARTICIPATE. LESLIE: WE WANT THEM TO COME, BECAUSE AT LEAST IF NEXT TIME IF ONE OF THE REGULAR MEMBERS CAN' T COME, THE ALTERNATE WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE THE WEEK BEFOG.•, AND WOULD KNOW WHAT' S GOING ON. THAT' S GREAT THAT THEY COME, THEY DON' T HAVE TO, BUT THEY COME. BUT. AS FAR AS VOTING. SHOULD THEIR VOTE COUNT? SKIP: NO. SCOTT: TRADITIONALLY, WHAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE HERE, IS IF THE ALTERNATES SHOW UP, THEY ALWAYS ALLOWED THEM TO SIT. THEY HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO COMMENT. AND THEY RECORDED THEIR VOTES. SKIP: NUMBER ONE, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT THEY SHOULDN' T VOTE AND THEIR VOTE SHOULD NOT BE RECORDED. SECOND. SHOULD ALTERNATES, WHEN YOU OTHERWISE HAVE A)FULLY BOARD. WHO COME TO A MEETING. PARTICIPATE IN A DISCUSSION. IF YOU WANT TO DO IT' S FINE, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I DON' T THINK IT IS FAIR FOR AN APPLICANT, WHO IS FACING A FIVE MEMBER BOARD TO HAVE TO PUT UP WITH AND PERHAPS HAVE HIS POSITION JEOPARDIZED BY TWO PERSONS WHO ARE NOT GOING TO BE VOTING MEMBERS ON THAT BOARD. HE MIGHT BE DOING FINE IN FRONT OF FIVE MEMBERS OF THAT BOARD AND THINK THIS IS ALL RIGHT . AND THEN THAT OTHER MEMBER THAT DOESN' T HAVE A VOTE. SAYS "WELL I JUST DON' T LIKE IT". AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT PERSON STARTS PERSUADING THE OTHERS. NOW I GUESS IF THAT PERSON WANTS TO COME OUT AND SPEAK AS A CITIZEN. HE CAN DO THAT• BUT THEY SHOULDN' T BE HERE AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE BOARD GIVING INPUT. Pave 20 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 PAUL: SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE, HEN WE REALLY CAN' T. . . LESLIE: NO. NO. FIVE. SKIP: YOUR FULL BARD Igi&FIVE MEMBERS? mw PAUL: YOU MEAN THAT IF THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THERE THEN THE ALTERNATE CAN SIT. SKIP: OH YEA, THATS WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR. YOUR ALTERNATES ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A FULL BOARD. IF THERE ARE THREE HERE, AND THE ALTERNATES SHOW UP, THAT' S WHAT THEY' RE FOR. PAUL: THE GROUND RULES ARE THAT NO MORE THAN FIVE PEOPLE SHOULD BE SITTING HERE FOR THE BOARD. SKIP: THAT' S RIGHT. LESLIE: I SURE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ALTERNATES COME AND HEAR THEIR COMMENTS AS PRIVATE CITIZENS. SKIP: YOU SHOULD KNOW IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING WHETHER YOU ARE NEEDED AS AN ALTERNATE. JUST REMEMBER, YOU DON' T CALL ALTERNATES JUST TO FORM A QUORUM, JUST TO GET A THIRD MEMBER. YOU CALL ALTERNATES TO TRY TO GET A FULL BOARD, FIVE MEMBERS. CLAUDETTE: SHOULD WE SIT HERE THEN, OR WHAT. SCOTT: IF YOU ARE NEEDED TO MAKE FIVE, YOU SIT HERE. IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND AS A CITIZEN AND I ALREADY HAVE FIVE SITTING HERE, THEN YOU SIT RIGHT OVER THERE AND,LISTEN. SKIP: I DON' T THINK YOU SHOULD BE SPEAKING AS A MEMBER OR ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE BOARD. SCOTT: BECAUSE YOUR VOTE ISN' T GOING TO COUNT ANYWAY. I CAN UNDERSTAND AN APPLICANT' S CONCERN OVER BOGGING THE PROCESS DOWN. CLAUDETTE: . I THINK IF YOU DON' T ATTEND, - IT' S IMPOSSIBLE TO KNOW WHAT' S GOING ON. Pave 22 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 CENTER O THE PROJECT, NOT HERE WHERE IT' S GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO ANOTHER SIGN. " NOW HE IS GOING TO COME BACK AND SAY, "WELL YOUR ORDINANCE PROVIDES THAT AS LONG AS YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE, THAT I CAN HAVE A SIGN HERE". BUT, I THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO NEGOTIATE FOR THAT. THAT I ANOTHER CASE WHERE IF 'YOU WENT INTO COURT, YOU HAVES—MIGAM- HAVE, A PROBLEM SUSTAINING I1: I'THINK, BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH THEOVERALL APPEARANCE AND THE HARMONY, THAT I WOULD FIGHT STRONGLY FOR THAT. SCOTT: THE PARCELS AT COUNTY LINE PLAZA ARE NOT OUT PARCELS, THEY ARE LAND LEASES. THEY UTILIZED ALD OF THE LAND AREA TO MEET ALL OF THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING CODE FOR THE ENTIRE CENTER, INCLUDING THE AREA OF THE LAND LEASES, TO MEET PARKING, SETBACKS, LOT COVERAGE. BOARD: GIVES US A LITTLE MORE CLOUT IN THAT CASE. SCOTT: IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY THAN IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY OUT PARCELS IN THE SENSE THAT THEY WERE UNDER SEPARATE OWNERSHIP AND NOT PART OF THE CENTER. THESE ARE PART OF THE CENTER. IT IS JUST THAT THEY ARE LAND LEASES AND THEY WILL BE DEVELOPED SEPARATELY FOR RESTAURANTS, BANKS OR WHATEVER COMES IN AND THEY WILL HAVE THEIR OWN CAB AND SITE PLAN REVIEW MEETINGS. BUT YOU ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO ALLOW A SIGN TO THEM. IF THE CENTER PUTS A BIG SIGN OUT FRONT, AND ONE OF THOSE LAND LEASES FALLS SHORT OF THE 100' , OR BY VIRTUE OF THEIR LINEAL FOOTAGE ON THE TWO STREETS, NEW ROAD AND U. S. ONE, THEY CAN' T HAVE X NUMBER OF SIGNS, THEN WE ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO GRANT THEM THOSE SIGNS. SKIP: AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A VARIANCE TO HAVE ADDITIONAL SIGNS. PAUL: WHAT IS IT, 100 FEET BETWEEN SIGNS? SCOTT: MINIMUM, IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SIGNAGE BY RIGHT OF THE LINEAL FRONTAGE, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE 400' OF LINEAL FRONTAGE BEFORE YOU START ADDING ADDITIONAL SIGNS, AND THEN FOR EVERY 300' OF LINEAL FRONTAGE, YOU GET AN ADDITIONAL SIGN. SO IF THEY HAD 1200' , THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED FOUR SIGNS FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER, NO CLOSER THAN 100' APART. PAUL: MINIMUM FRONTAGE FOR TWO SIGNS WOULD HAVE TO BE WHAT? SCOTT: 400' . A GOOD EXAMPLE IS VILLAGE SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER WHICH IS 900+ FEET, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO FOUR SIGNS AND THEY HAVE SIX. THEY ARE IN VIOLATION RIGHT NOW. PLUS, THE WHOLE BUNCH AT THE SOUTH END ARE NOT 100' APART. Pave 21 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 JANET: WHEN PANTZIN ASSOC. CAME IN FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL, I GUESS THEY CAME IN FOR SPECIAL EXCEPTION, INITIALLY, THEY HAD COME IN WITH FOUR OR FIVE OUT PARCELS ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEY HAD COME IN WITS}--THAT DESIGNATED OUT PARCELS, AND THEY DESIGNATED 3000 SQUAIE ETC. AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE FAST FOOD OR RANK O EATEVER. NOW WHAT WE WERE MING WAS LOOKING AT THE SIGNS 'THAT THEY WERE PUTTING, NOT ONLY O? -THE BUILDING, BUT THE SIGNS THEY WERE WANTING AT THE ENTRANCE FOR THE PLAZA. NOW, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT A SITE PLAN LIKE THAT AND THERE IS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET THAT IS APPROVED QR THE SHOPPING CENTER, SO THEY HAVE DESIGNATED A CERTAIN NUMBER-OF SQUARE FEET FOR SIGNAGE. WHAT POSITION DO WE HAVE FOR SAYING WHERE THE SIGNS ARE GOING TO GO? LIKE WITH FIVE OUT PARCELS ON THE FRONT, THEY WANTED SOME POLE SIGNS IN THE FRONT FOR K-MART AND WINN DIXIE, AND THEN THEY WANTED OTHER SIGNS ANNOUNCING THE NAME OF THE PLAZA, PLUS SIGNS ON THE BUILDING. AND THEN WHAT I ENVISIONED IS EACH OF THESE OUT PARCELS COMING IN FOR THEIR OWN POLE SIGN BECAUSE THE ZONING BOARD ALLOWS, PER PROPERTY OWNER OR PER TENANT, A CERTAIN SIGNAGE. NOW WHAT POSITION DO WE HAVE TO CONTROL THE LOOK OF THE CENTER? I DIDN' T WANT TO SEE JUST A WHOLE ROW OF SIGNS WITH FOUR OR FIVE OUT PARCELS PLUS ENTRY. WHAT DO WE DO WHEN A SITE PLAN COMES IN AND ONLY A PORTION OF IT IS PRESENTED IN THE FRONT ELEVATION WITH SIGNS? WHAT ARE OUR OBLIGATIONS AND HOW DO WE TELL THE DEVELOPER WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SKIP: YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THOSE OUT PARCELS, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BECOME A PART OF THE CENTER LATER ON AND YOU ARE CONCERNED IF SOMEBODY BUYS ONE OF THOSE OUT PARCELS AND HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY OF PUTTING UP A FREE STANDING SIGN AND THEN THE SHOPPING CENTER HAS ALSO PUT HIS RIGHT NEXT TO HIS, SO YOU HAVE A STRIP OF THEM. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT' S ONE OF THE AREAS THAT IS COVERED SPECIFICALLY BY ORDINANCE, AND IT TALKS ABOUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN FREE STANDING SIGNS AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE YOU ARE SORT OF A NEGOTIATOR, I THINK. PAL: IT DEPENDS ON WHICH SIGN GOES UP FIRST. SCOT: YES, ACTUALLY IT DOES. IF THEY ARE ALLOWED X NUMBER OF SIGNS BASED UPON THEIR LINEAL FOOTAGE AND THEY CAN GET THE 100' SEPARATION. . . SKIP: I WOULD TRY TO NEGOTIATE WITH THEM IF I SAW THOSE OUT PARCELS THERE AND IF I WERE ON THIS BOARD, I WOULD SAY, "NOW LOOK, THERE IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE SIGNS ON THESE OUT PARCELS UNLESS YOU PURCHASE THEM THEY BECOME PART OF THE SHOPPING CENTER. WE THINK THAT YOUR SIGN SHOULD BE LOCATED HERE IN THE Page 23 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SKIP: I THINK THAT IS A MISTAKE IN YOUR ZONING CODE, WHERE YOU HAVE SAY A SHOPPING CENTER THAT HAS SAY 800 LINEAR 1'ht,T, I THINK THE PURPOSE OF YOUR CODE IS TO ALLOW, FIRST OF ALL IT' S TO AVOID CLUTTER, AND THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE THE DISTANCES, BUT IT IS ALSO TO ALLOW FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LINEAL FRONTAGE TO HAVE A FREE STA[ ING. GN. BUT WHEN YOU GET SOMEBODWHONAS 1000' , THERE IS NO REASON TO HAVE TO ALLOW THAT PERSON TO HAVE A SIGN EVERY TWO OR THREE HUNDRED FEET. LIKE AT PALM BEACH MALL, IT HAS ONE FREE STANDING SIGN AT THE FRONT OF IT AND THEY DON' T TRY TO IDENTIFY EVERY STORE THAT' S IN THERE. THEY IDENTIFY THEIR ANCHOR TENANTS. BUT A LOAF THESE GUYS COME IN AND TRY TO SAS WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO IDENTIFY EVERY STORE THATS IN THERE. I DON' T THINK THEY SHOULD. SCOTT: THE TREND HAS BEEN NOT TO ALLOW THAT, TEQUESTA SHOPPES IS A PRIME EXAMPLE. THEY HAVE PLENTY OF FRONTAGE TO GET MAYBE THREE OR FOUR FREE STANDING SIGNS, THEY HAVE THE ONE THAT IDENTIFIES THE SHOPPING CENTER ONLY. JANET: THEY WERE NICE TO DEAL WITH. SCOTT: YES, THEY AGREED THAT IT WAS IN EVERYONE' S BEST INTEREST NOT TO PUT FIVE SIGNS ON U. S. ONE. SKIP: NOW THERE' S SOMETHING WHERE YOU NEED AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD TO DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF THING. SCOTT: CURRENTLY, THEY ARE ALLOWED BASED ON THEIR LINEAL FRONTAGE. JANET: WELL, HOW CAN WE GET THAT CHANGED? SCOTT: THE REASONING FOR THAT WAS, YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE SAY YOU HAD TEN COMMERCIAL LOTS IN A ROW THAT MEET OUR 100' MINIMUM FRONTAGE, SEPARATE OWNERSHIP, NOT A SHOPPING CENTER, SEPARATE BUILDINGS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS ALLOWED A FREE STANDING SIGN, RIGHT NOW. YOU COULD HAVE TEN SIGNS, 100' APART. SO THE FEELING WAS, FOR A SHOPPING CENTER UNDER UNITY OF TITLE AND LARGE LAND AREAS, TO ALLOW THEM SOME FORMULA FOR ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE. SKIP: WHAT IS IT, EVERY 300' ? SCOTT: YES. SO THEY ARE STILL MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN IF THEY SUBDIVIDED THE SHOPPING CENTER INTO INDIVIDUAL LOTS UNDER SEPARATE OWNERSHIP, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM COULD HAVE A FREE STANDING SIGN. THERE ARE WAYS AROUND IT IF THEY REALLY WANT TO PUSH IT TO THE WALL. Pace 24 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 SKIP: FORTUNATELY, YOU DON' T HAVE THAT MUCH OF A COMMERCIAL AREA TO WORRY ABOUT THERE BEING SO MUCH OF A CHANGE. YOU KNOW BOCA REALLY HAD ALOT OF COMMERCIAL AREAS THAT THEY- HAD TO WORRY ABOUT, AND THEY REALLY DID IT RIGHT. THEIR PLANNING WAS REALLY GOOD DOWN THERE. ME OF THE THINGS YOU NOTICE WHEN YOg GO DOWN THERE IS ..THE7 DON' T ALLOW ABOVE GROUND POKER POM. THEY WERE ONE OF THE FIRST_TO PUT EVERYTHING UNDERGROUND. LESLIE: AND YOU NOTICE THAT ALL THEIR SIGNS ARE REAL LOW. AND EVERY TIME I EVEN SUGGEST THAT HERE. PEOPLE KIND OF GO CRAZY. PAUL: BEFORE YOU GO, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A FEW CHOICE WORDS ABOUT THE SUNSHINE LAW. SKIP: YOU WANT ME TO JUST ADVISE YOU ON WHAT THE SUNSHINE LAW IS? PAUL: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE MAJOR CONCERNS WE SHOULD HAVE ABOUT THE SUNSHINE LAW WITH THIS BOARD? SKIP: WELL, I THINK EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH IT. THE SUNSHINE LAW WAS PASSED WITH THE IDEA IN MIND THAT THE VILLAGE' S BUSINESS OR THE MUNICIPALITY' S BUSINESS IS THE PUBLIC' S BUSINESS, AND WHEN YOU CONDUCT BUSINESS. IT MUST BE CONDUCTED IN THE PUBLIC. SO THEN THE CASES CAME OUT AND SAID WHAT IS CONDUCTING BUSINESS? AND IT WAS DETERMINED THAT CONDUCTING BUSINESS MEANS THAT WHEN ANY TWO OR MORE OF A BODY GET TOGETHER TO DISCUSS BUSINESS. THEY HAVE COME OUT AND INDICATED THAT IT IS A VIOLATION OF THE SUNSHINE LAW FOR PAUL. SCOTT AND LESLIE TO GO TO DINNER AND DISCUSS BUSINESS. IT IS NOT TO SAY YOU CAN' T GO TO DINNER TOGETHER, HOWEVER, IT' S BEST AND THE SAFEST COURSE OF ACTION FOR TWO OR MORE PEOPLE NOT TO GET TOGETHER. BECAUSE, PEOPLE SEE YOU TOGETHER AND THEY CAN GET THE IDEA THAT YOU ARE INDEED DISCUSSING BUSINESS. THAT' S NOT TO SAY YOU CAN' T CALL ME OR THAT YOU CAN' T TALK TO SCOTT AND DEAL WITH THE STAFF AND THE ADMINISTRATION ON A ONE TO STAFF BASIS. YOU WANTED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH ME, I WOULD HAVE BTO SAYUT IFTNO,OOI CAN' T MEET WITH TWO OF YOU. UNLESS YOU CALL THE PRESS AND YOU GET SOMEONE TO TAKE MINUTES OF THE MEETING. THE SUNSHINE LAW YOU LET THE PRESS KNOW WHERE THE MEETING IS. REQUIRES C THAE ALLOWED TO ATTEND AND THAT MINUTES BE TAKEN ANND RECORDED OF MEETING. EVEN AFTER A MEETING IS ADJOURNED, PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HANG AROUND TALKING ON THE FRONT STEPS ABOUT BUSINESS THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. Page 25 C. A. B. Workshop July 20, 1988 BOARD CONSENSUS: IT WAS A HELPFUL MEETI10-. RESPECTISLLY SUBMITTED, 6011 D. d%dfl SCOTT D. LADD CLERK OF TU E BOARD jszs cc: MEMBERS & ALT. MEMBERS, COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD VILLAGE MANAGER VILLAGE ATTORNEY BUILDING OFFICIAL =tr. 2 VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA _ I BUILDING DEPARTMENT Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive r� Tequesta.Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 MEMORANDUM: >o TO: Members and Alternate Members, Community Appearance Board Village Mffhager Building Official FROM: Scott D. Ladd, Building Official 50b DATE: July 18, 1988 SUBJECT: Community Appearance Board Meeting Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the Community Appearance Board meeting to be held at 9: 30 A. M.. Wednesday, July 20, 1988. Also attached is a copy of the application. Please notify the Building Official's office at 746- 7515 if you are unable to attend. Thank you. jam VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT y Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Jquesta,Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 sr� NOTICE OF MEETING COMMUNITY APPEARANCBOAF JULY 20, 1988 The Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board will hold a meeting at 9: 30 A. M. , Wednesday, July 20, 1988 in the Village Halms Council Chambers, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida, to consider: 1. An application from Ferrin Signs for a directional sign at driveway entrance to Community Savings, 101 U.B. Hwy. One, North. Overall sign height is 5' Sign portion is 32" X 26". 2. Workshop meeting with Village Attorney to review the guidelines under which the Board operates. Please be advised that if any person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board at this meeting, he will need a record of the proceedings and for such purpose, it will be necessary to insure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made to support the testimony and evidence upon which an appeal is to be based. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Leslie A. Cook, Chairperson ItD. d0& By: Scott D. Ladd • Clerk of the Board cc: Board Members Bldg. Official Village Manager News Media Posted: July 18, 1988 �t`593� VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY APPEARANCE REVIEW jrE/�IN S Fehr- NAME OF APPLICANT: ('tfu1vI79 �/I' S DATE: 7/1/„ ` MAILING ADDRESS: O. /5.k /7.f0 w � /S. '5'3 PHONE NUMBER: ( HOME) ��1 �_ Yg'f ( BUSINESS) F3 3 - Jo 9/ LOT/PARCEL ADDRESS: /6/ Akin...al. a 5'. mw PROPERTY CONTROL NUMBER: �- DESCRIPTIIOON OF PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION, ADDITION AND/OR ALTERATION: no.v _Ca w A Y 04/YE K.+4 fA/r, S,& J Poe-no - „ #. x a� M PROPERTY OWNER: 6#010,410 Ts, ,c0/Ares .+OTE: APPLICANT SHALL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING WITH THE APPLICATION: 1. TWO ( 2) SETS OF PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED SITE PLANS SHOWING ALL EXISTING AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES, SETBACKS, G AND LOING LAYOUT. INGRESS AND EGRESS, SIDEWALKS AND WALKWAYS,INLANDSCAPINGAND IRRIGATION, EXTERIOR LIGHTING LAYOUT. 2. MULTI-DIMENSIONAL COLOR RENDERING. 3. TWO ( 2) SETS OF PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED DRAWINGS SHOWING ALL EXISTING & PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS WITH COLOR SCHEMES, SIGNAGE, TYPE OF ROOF AND ROOF COVERING, AND WINDOW AND DOOR TREATMENTS. 4. WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM PROPERTY OWNER. 5. ANY OTHER DOCUMENTATION PERTINENT TO THIS APPLICATION. 6. APPLICATION FEE OF FIFTY - • . 00) DOLLARS FOR EACH APPEARANCE PER ANY APPLICATION. APPLICANT' S SIGNATURE: NOTE: ALL RENDERINGS, MODELS, PHOTOS, ETC. SUBMITTED TO THE VILLAGE 'ILL BECOME THE PROPERTY OF THE VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA. rr VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA '' BUILDING DEPARTMENT ,: ; Post Office Box 3273 • �=``� �- 357 Tequesta Drive 4,4tN Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (404) 746-7515 July 25, 1988 • fir. Howard Ferrinaw- Ferrin Signs, Inc. =" —. P. 0. Box 1750 West Palm Beach, FL 33402 Dear Mr. Ferrin: — Subject: Your application for Community Appearance Board review for a directional sign at the driveway entrance to Community Savings, 101 U. S. Hwy. One, North. This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the July 20. 1988 meeting approving your application for the above referenced subject as follows: Maximum height of sign to be 4• . Sign portion is 32" high X 26" wide. Approval is subject to Community Savings paying for any cost incurred to move the sign in the event that there is any impact from the design and construction of the intersection. This approval has no bearing or relationship on any other approvals which might be required. The Building Department should be contacted in this regard. Sincerely yours, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Vey 6. cAlet Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board SDL: jms cc: Leslie Cook. Chairperson Thomas G. Bradford. Village Manager Building Official 0 . •s.u.•rt /. recond al-1 Si .../ . _ rv(0 / 741 2Q..1-vniN . .. .. ._ _ . ._...... ii I. Iii ... s\ii i . v, . . •. , 06-000. • . . . ..., . . , 1 Ilk,v..11-,1.11 11 I ...... . .. .. . I , i I \. \ \ . . , \ \ '.....-.0°) ‘ \ \ - • • — I 11 , I: I 1 I• / / ',/ I I V //I 7.M • II I I I j ., I-. V V/ _I 11.)4 4 1 , 4NAA , , , r .t / . . „ 1,, 1)1 i 1 II . DI , Il I .... ! I 1 • . 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Box 1750 West Palm Beach, FL 33402 Dear Mr. Ferrin: Subject: Application for Community Appearance Board review for a directional sign at the driveway entrance to Community Savings, 101 U. S. Hwy. One, North. Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the July 20. 1988 meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at which time they will review your application for the above referenced subject. Also enclosed is a statement pertaining to the functions of the Board. You and/or your representative must be in attendance at the meeting to answer any questions the Board might have in regard to your application. If a representative is not present, the Board will withhold action until a later date. Very truly yours. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD bioft,.th aft,ht Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board ims encl. cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Building Official Village Manager , , . , iilf&r VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA -. iii BUILDING DEPARTMENT c.: Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive `�, Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 >t • , MEMORANDUM: TO: Members and Alternate Members. Community Appearance Board Village Manager Building Official FROM: Scott D. Ladd, Clerk of the Hoard �% DATE: August 3, 1988 SUBJECT: Community Appearance Board Workshop Meeting Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the Community Appearance Board / Planning Commission workshop meeting to be held at 9: 30 A. M. , Wednesday, August 10. 1988. j ms encl. r ill: air1 I VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA „''- BUILDING DEPARTMENT %`�"3 . Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive v,�%�� Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 NOTICE OF MEETING COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD AUGUST 10, 1988 The Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board will hold a joint workshop meeting with the Planning Commission at 9: 30 A. M. , Wednesday, August 10, 1988 in the Village Hall Council Chambers, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida, to consider: 1. Presentation and discussion of a landscaping proposal for the Tequesta Drive improvement project and entrance sign( s> at U. S. Hwy. One. Please be advised that if any person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board at this meeting, he will need a record of the proceedings and for such purpose, it will be necessary to insure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made to support the testimony and evidence upon which an appeal is to be based. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Leslie A. Cook, Chairperson Zia( L. add By: Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board j ms cc: Board Members Bldg. Official Village Manager News Media Posted: August 3, 1988 ,� VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA is ,3 1r mc Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive � ,� Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7457 ,y�1 � f v • VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD/PLANNING COMMISSION (JOINT WORKSHOP MEETING) MINUTES OF THE MEETING AUGUST 10, 1988 A joint workshop meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board and Planning Commission was held on Wednesday, August 10, 1988 in the Village Hall, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida. Community Appearance Board members present were Leslie A. Cook, Chairperson, Paul Coben, Janet Gettig, Claudette Dalak and Mindy Collins. Planning Commission members present were: Stanley B. Jacobs, Chairman, Mary S. Corr, Vice-Chairman, Alfred S. DeMott, Secretary, James W. Pilz, Eloda Tagney and James Sterges. Also present were Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager, Wendy K. Harrison, Administrative Assistant, Gary Preston, Public Works/ Recreation Director, and Scott D. Ladd, Building Official and clerk of the Community Appearance Board. James K. Park and Mark Bidwell of Gee & Jenson were also present. The meeting was called to order at 9 :40 AM by Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager who discussed the previous actions taken by the Planning Commission and commended the Commission for the significant sign design work they had performed previous to the conception of the Tequesta Drive Improvement project. He then outlined the purpose of the meeting, which was to discuss the landscaping and entry signs relative to the redesigned Tequesta Drive Improvement Project. Mr. Bradford then turned the meeting over to Mr. Park of Gee & Jenson for presentation of the materials - prepared. Mr. Park, assistedb4 Mark Bidwell, showed a rougI proposal for landscaping Tequesta Drive. He explained that-- all of the Royal Palm currently along the route of the -"1- project would have to be relocated during the construction.- Three options for the central medians ( except for the main median at US 1 ) were presented, ranging from just sod to a Page 2 Meeting Minutes CAB/Planning Commission August 10, 1988 design including plantings of annuals. It was the consensus of the participants that the middle option, consisting of two or three types of plantings without annuals, was desirable, taking into account both aesthetics and maintenance requirements. The members then discussed the two cross-section options, and agreed that having all of the plantings in the public right-of-way was desirable. The other option was to coordinate with adjoining property owners to relocate trees on private property. The treatment of the median at US1 was the next topic, and the pros and cons of a sign in the median versus two corner signs were discussed among the group. Liability concerns of a center sign were raised. Those present eventually reached consensus on the general concept of the corner signs and decided to work out the specifics of the design at a later date. There being no other business before the joint boards, the meeting was adjourned at 11 :35 AM. Respectfully submitted, 11-)11A-- Wendy K. Harrison Administrative Assistant F ti p VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA / ;: ''` BUILDING DEPARTMENT - Post OI-fiee Box 32 3 • 357 Tequest,t Drive 7eyuexta. Florida 33469-0273 • (40-) 746-7515 Y + MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD ' MEETING DATE: AUGUST 24, 1988 MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT: 9: 40 A. M. BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: COOK YES COBLE NO COBEN YES GETTIG YES FRANK NO DALACK YES COLLINS NO APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES: MEETING DATE; JULY 20, 1988 COMMENTS: MINUTES BEING PROCESSED, WILL BE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL AT A LATER MEETING. MOTION TO APPROVE BY: VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK COBLE COBEN GETTIG FRANK DALACK COLLINS MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: AUGUST 24, 1988 APPLICANT # 1: ALAN M. STRASSLER COUNTY LINE PLAZA, 500-680 U. S. HWY. *1. SUBJECT: FINALIZATION OF SITE LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY LINE PLAZA. A 43,025 SQ. FT. PROPERTY ADDITION AND A 6,720 SQ. FT. ADDITION ON BUILDING "A" AT COUNTY LINE PLAZA. MAJOR POINTS: ACQUIRED THE MOENS PROPERTY ( ISLAND BOUNTY) AND REALIGNED "NEW ROAD" INTO U. S. HWY. ONE. LANDSCAPING TO BE REVIEWED AT AN UPCOMING MEETING. MOTION BY: MEMBER GETTIG TO APPROVE XX DISAPPROVE AS SUBMITTED MODIFIED: XX AS FOLLOWS: XX 1. ROOF TILE CHANGED TO LIFETILE #114 2. THE ADDITIONAL LAND AREA IS APPROVED 3. THE SITE PLAN IS APPROVED 4. THE ADDITION TO BUILDING "A" IS APPROVED 5. THE SITE LIGHTING FOR THE ENTIRE PLAZA IS APPROVED 6. LANDSCAPING TO REVIEWED AT UPCOMING MEETING. BUILDING APPROVED WITH SAME ARCHITECTURAL THEME AT SOUTH SIDE OF EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER AS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR CURRENTLY PERMITTED CENTER. SECOND BY: MEMBER COBEN VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE --- COBEN FOR GETTIG FOR FRANK --- DALACK FOR COLLINS --- • i. i MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: AUGUST 24, 1988 AFPLLCANT * 2: FERRIN SIGNS JUPITER TEQUESTA NAONAL BANK 250 TEQUESTA DRIVE SUBJECT: CHANGE THE COLORS OF THE BUILDING LETTERS AND FREE STANDING SIGN ( PREVIOUSLY APPROVED) . MAJOR POINTS: MOTION BY: MEMBER COBEN TO APPROVE XX DISAPPROVE AS SUBMITTED: XX MODIFIED: AS FOLLOWS: FREE STANDING SIGN COLORS AND BUILDING WALL LETTERS APPROVED AS SUBMITTED WITH ADDITIONAL PROVISION THAT THE EXISTING GREEN RAILING BE REPAINTED TO EITHER THE GRAY ( SW4795) OR BLACK TO CONFORM WITH THE SIGN AND WALL LETTERING COLOR SCHEME. SECOND BY: MEMBER GETTIG VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE COBEN FOR GETTIG FOR FRANK - DALACK FOR COLLINS --- • • • . MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: AUGUST 24, 1988 APPLICANT * 3: CHURCH OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD 400 SEABROOr`ROAD SUBJECT: CONSTRUCTION OF TWO NEW BUILDINGS WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING. MAJOR POINTS: TWO NEW BUILDINGS ADDING APPROXIMATELY DOUBLE THE CURRENT SQUARE FOOTAGE IN BUILDING AREA. GROUND COVER WILL BE ADDED ALONG SOUTH PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO GALLERY SQUARE NORTH. PEDESTRIAN PATHS WILL BE THROUGH THE PLANTING AREA ALSO. MOTION BY: MEMBER COBEN APPROVE XX DISAPPROVE AS SUBMITTED: XX MODIFIED: AS FOLLOWS: SECOND BY: MEMBER GETTIG VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE --- COBEN FOR GETTIG FOR FRANK --- DALACK FOR COLLINS --- MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: AUGUST 24, 1988 ADDITIONAL BOARD COMMENTS: BOARD AGREED TO MEET AUGU 30, 1988 AT 9: 00 A. M—TO REVIEW THE TOTAL LANDSCAPING FOR COUNTY LINE PLAZA. MEETING ADJOURNED AT: //:7 Rf" RESPECTFULLY SUBMMITTED, jalite i[/• dug SCOTT D. LADD CLERK OF THE BOARD SDL: j ms cc: MEMBERS & ALT. MEMBERS, COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD VILLAGE MANAGER BUILDING OFFICIAL • VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA ' ',41AMH4 BUILDING DEPARTMENT Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 r a August 25, 1'363 Mr. Howd Ferrin Ferrin Signs, Inc. P. 0. Box 1750 West Palm Beach, FL 33402 Dear Mr. Ferrin: Subject: Your application for Community Appearance Board review for a color change on the previously approved wall signs and free standing signs for the Jupiter Tequesta National Bank, 250 Tequesta Drive. • This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the August 24, 8 meeting approving your application for the above referenced subject as8follows: Free standing sign colors and building wall letters are approved as submitted with proviso that the existing green railing be repainted to either the gray ( SW4795) or black to conform with the sign and wall lettering color scheme. This approval has no bearing or relationship on any other approvals which might be required. The Building Department should be contacted in this regard. Sincerely yours, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Veitt ,O. dace Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board SDL: ims cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager Building Official • VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT • Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Dri'e Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 •� =-- � T (407) 746-7515 August 25, 1988 Mr. Alan M. Strassler Alan Strassler Architects, Inc. 8895 N. Military Tr. . 201D Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 Dear Alan: Subject: Application for Community Appearance Board review. This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the August 24. 1988 meeting approving your application for finalization of ' site lighting and landscaping for the entire Plaza. a 43. 025 square foot property addition and a 6.720 square foot addition on Building "A" at County Line Plaza as follows: 1. Roof tile changed to Lifetile #114 2. The additional land area is approved 3. The site plan is approved 4. The addition to Building "A" is approved 5. The site lighting for the entire Plaza is approved 6. The landscaping is to be reviewed at an upcoming meeting. The building addition is approved with the same architectural theme at south side of existing shopping center as previously approved for currently permitted center. This approval has no bearing or relationship on any other approvals or permits which might be required. The Building Department should be contacted in this regard. Very truly yours. tD. cdc( Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board jms cc: Leslie Cook. Chairman . Thomas G. Bradford. Village Manager Pantlin Assoc. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA •+� ; BUILDING DEPARTMENT ; Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive • Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 August 25, 1988 Mr. Allen F. Hodges, Senior Warden Church of the Good Shepherd 400 Seabrook Road Tequesta, FL 33469 Dear Mr. Hodges: Subject: Community Appearance Board review of your application to construct two new buildings and add additional parking at the Church of the Good Shepherd, 400 Seabrook Road. This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the August 24, 1988 meeting approving your application for the above referenced project as follows: Two new buildings adding approximately double the current square footage in building area are approved as submitted. Ground cover will be added along south property line adjacent to Gallery Square North. Pedestrian paths will be through the planting area also. This approval has no bearing or relationship on any other approvals or permits which might be required. The Building Department should be contacted in this regard. Very truly yours, Aitt 6. 44 Scott D. Ladd Clerk of The Board j ms cc: Leslie Cook Village Manager Building Official • I i'I • i VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA „'' BUILDING DEPARTMENT ,mi Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive 4,4 : Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 11 MEMORANDUM: TO: Members and Alternate Members, Community Appearance Board Village Manager Building Official FROM: Scott D. Ladd, Clerk of the Board e DATE: August 16, 1988 SUBJECT: Community Appearance Board Meeting Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the Community Appearance Board meeting to be held at 9: 30 A. M. , Wednesday, August 24, 1988. Also attached are copies of the applications. Additional information on these applications is available for review in the Building Department prior to the meeting. Please notify the Building Official' s office if you are unable to attend this meeting. Thank you. ims encl. • • •r ,r6 f VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 NOTICE OF MEETING COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD AUGUST 24. 1988 The Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board will hold a meeting at 9: 30 A. M. , Wednesday. August 24, 1988 in the Village Hall Council Chambers, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta. Florida. to consider: 1. An application from Alan M. Strassler: A. Finalization of site lighting and landscaping for the entire County Line Plaza. B. A 43.025 square foot property addition and a 6.720 square foot addition on Building "A", at a previously approved shopping center. County Line Plaza. 500-680 U. S. Hwy. One. 2. An application from Ferrin Signs, Inc. to change the colors of the building letters and free standing sign for the previously approved Jupiter Tequesta National Bank. 250 Tequesta Drive. 3. An application from the Church of the Good Shepherd. 400 Seabrook Road. to construct two new buildings and additional parking areas. Please be advised that if any person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board at this meeting, he will need a record of the proceedings and for such purpose, it will be necessary to insure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made to support the testimony and evidence upon which an appeal is to be based. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Leslie A. Cook. Chairperson By: Scott D. Lad '"E\ Clerk of the Board cc: Board Members Bldg. Official Village Manager News Media stt• VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA 15-0 • APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY APPEARANCE REVIEW NAME OF APPLICANT: Alan M S rassler DATE: 7/29/1215 /TAILING ADDRESS: 8895 N. Militar Tr. , Suite 201D Palm Beach Gardens FL 334 PHONE NUMBER: ( HOME) ____________________ ( BUSINESS) 627-0336 LOT/PARCEL ADDRESS: Not Platted - See Attached Le al Descri tion PROPERTY CONTROL NUMBER: See Attached DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION, ADDITION AND/OR ALTERATION: Shopping Center (County Line Plaza) under construction on 19.99 acres to be enlarged by 43,025 sq. ft. (.99 acres) by the addition of the "Moen Pro ert " g A 6,720 sq. ft. addition on building "A". p y ' Site lighting and landscaping for Plaza. PROPERTY OWNER: Pantlin Associates, Inca NOTE: APPLICANT SHALL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING WITH THE APPLICATION: 1. TWO ( 2) SETS OF PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED SITE PLANS SHOWING ALL EXISTING AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES, LAYOUT. INGRESS AND EGRESS. SIDEWALKS TANDKWALKWAYSINLANDSCAPIN AND IRRIGATION, EXTERIOR LIGHTING LAYOUT. AND 2. MULTI—DIMENSIONAL COLOR RENDERING. 3. 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The Village of Tequesta building department should be contacted in this regard. Sincerely yos, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD A ` 'D. &C/C/ Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board. SDL: j ms cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager C' 6)Q6$ I VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA So_Gc) • APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY APPEARANCE REVIEW NAME CF APPLICANT: /Q.,,t14ie/ J/4xs JNG DATE: F Ll MAIL Iti. ADDRESS: l/Vs O!!E Geto4FE PHONE NUMBER: ( HOME) ��" y9 ( BUSINESS) LOT/PARCEL ADDRESS: V.. O ��C:1,,cg,- /r/, PROPERTY CONTROL NUMBER: DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION, ADDITION AND/OR ALTERATION: 0/4A/4S COL 04 s o,J 4o/c21.1v4 2E rrzvc-1 Am' F/26.6 ,s'T-4I1/4/4)4 5'/ .✓ PROPERTY OWNER: _ /Ei t,,E t -04- 0/0110, C,EN P k. /J /-IQQTiI/t5t Swl,0 NOTE: APPLICANT SHALL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING WITH THE APPLICATION: 1. TWO ( 2) SETS OF PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED SITE PLANS SHOWING ALL EXISTING AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES, SETBACKS, PARKAND LOING LAYOUT. INGRESS AND EGRESS, SIDEWALKS AND WALKWAYSING LANDSCAPINGAND IRRIGATION, EXTERIOR LIGHTING LAYOUT. 2. MULTI-DIMENSIONAL COLOR RENDERING. 3. TWO ( 2) SETS OF PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED DRAWINGS SHOWING EXISTING & PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS WITH COLOR SCHEMES, SIGN EL TYPE OF ROOF AND ROOF COVERING, AND WINDOW AND DOOR TREATMENTS. 4. WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM PROPERTY OWNER. 5. ANY OTHER DOCUMENTATION PERTINENT TO THIS APPLICATION. 6. APPLICATION FEE OF FIFTY $50. 00) D ANY APPLICATION. FOR EACH APPEARANCE PER APPLICANT' S SIGNATURE: NOTE: ALL RENDERINGS, MODELS, PHOTOS, ETC. SUBMITTED TO THE VI ILL BECOME THE PROPERTY OF THE VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA. LLAGE �" VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive � N Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA SITE PLAN REVIEW COUNCIL FINDINGS PROJECT: FERRIN SIGNS FOR JUPITER TEQUESTA NATIONAL BANK 250 TEQUESTA DRIVE, TEQUESTA, FL FREE STANDING SIGN: 6' WIDE X 16' SIMULATED STUCCO FINISH TO MATCH BUILDI GGH COLOR. SIGN PORTION ( LOGO & COPY) — 5' WIDE X 7' HIGH ( 35 SQ. FT. ), LOGO AND LETTERS ROUTED FROM ALUMINUM FACE, BACK WITH TRANSLUCENT PLEXIGLAS ( WHITE), TIME & TEMPERATURE DISPLAY — 5' WIDE X 1'INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. The Village Council of the Village of Tequesta. Florida, having reviewed the above referenced Site Plan on July 28, 1988 finds, pursuant to the terms of Ordinance No. 355, as amended, section X ( M) , 4( b) as follows: 1. The approval of the Site Plan will not adversely affect the public interest. 2. The specific zoning requirements governing the use of the property have been met. 3. Satisfactory provisions and arrangements have been made concerning items 1 thru 15. Section X ( M), 4( b) of Village Ordinance No. 319. 4. Satisfactory provisions and arrangements have not been made concerning items not specifically referred to in the previous sentence. COMMENTS: To approve as submitted- for free standing sign with the Community Appearance Board requested additional landscaping at sign base and along Old Dixie Hwy , but in lieu of requested additional landscaping along Tequesta Drive, a 85,000. 0 property owner to the Village ofbTequesta. provided by the . .; t •••• ••• •• :, • • • • • • ••• •••• i • •• • • i BLACK BACKGROUND ', s•: : •• i ).n - .n . . ,f,4- • . . 1/AP • r. 3 ,i ' _ WHITE LOGO & r• . • LETTERING • . f •- . Jupiter .. e . . u . spa .. : 1 , . • , . , t. : . . _ National. . . . Ba n k : i. BURG . � • GRAY BACKGROUND STUCCO TO MATCH' . • • BUILDING COLOR • • - i • - -•r • .'.•,�r� •."�►,y-l f �its •y�.�,, 41 -u • �. t4 r" • �.-� r ' i� �" I.y" ,M ••• 1 lr,•�w..sC+ raw, L• Jar•a^•7' .'� �,�'.C' y ;y i ...• ,, h _..:_., . .- �'.! , - _ :f'1`'v -+\•i,,..r.. :�i ,f--t..�.��` _. •, .�.- -/•" _ � � 1. •�",�• PROPOSED COLORS Pave 2 Based upon the foregoing findings, the Village Council of the Village of Tequesta approves the application. For the Village Council jot( b. 4141 By: Scott D. Ladd, C. B. O. Building Official Date: August 4, 1988 NOTE: A building permit must be applied for within one ( 1) year of the date of this site plan approval or the approval shall be nullified. 7-6-88 FREE STANDING ,•'a��''�l SIGN APPROVAL, • VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT `� Wit' Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive �� Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • <4Y- � 9 (407) 746-7515 July 8, 1988 Mr. Howard Ferrin Ferrin ° Signs, Inc. • P. 0. Box 1750 West Palm Beach. FL 33402 Dear Mr . Ferrin: Subject: Your application for Community Appearance for free standing sign with time and temperatureoard andreview landscapi a changes for the Jupiter Tequesta National Bank. 250 Tequestng a Drive. This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the July 6, 1988 meeting approving your application for the above referenced subject as follows: Free standing sign structure - 6' wide X 16' high, simulated stucco finish to match building color. Sign portion ( logo & copy) — 5' wide X 7 high s .Logo and letters routed from aluminum face` 3Sback (with translucent Plexiglas ( white) , internally illuminated. Time & temperature display - 5' wide X 1' high Additional landscaping approved per er plan. oak tree is to be replaced with a similar tree theesamedcondition be considered along Old Dixie Hwy. This approval has no bearing or relationship on any other approvals which might be required. The Building Department should be contacted in this regard. • Sincerely yours, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Yfeett �o, aeadc Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board SDL: jms cc: Leslie Cook. Chairperson Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager Building Official r—kt1 Alsil ^B' • APPROVED 7-6-88 1 �� I II Iva t� G• o . II I • ••• • •• •• • ; • • •• •• T • • • • • • 711 ,6r.b • •••• ••• • •••• Arl-.131T i i'il. islurA44171.10TIV/25 • - _ i1'FRvt °4°'••�MINuM ��i iKo°N��tT • - Jupiter i _ pp spi•I TequesLopearr Nationai — �, , I Bank _ .. • .___ r,N,*., • • • rN,SN — r • • -vtr wn1.i. J1LaAO oil -'f.,r APPROVAL ' P VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA i BUILDING DEPARTMENT .a . 7 Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive w'it Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 June 27, 1988 Mr. Howard Ferrin Ferrin Signs, Inc. P. 0. Box 1750 West Palm Beach, FL 33402 Dear Mr. Ferrin:, Subject: Your application for Community Appearance Board review for a free standing sign with time and temperature and three ( 3) wall signs for the Tequesta Corporate Center, 250 Tequesta Drive. This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the June 22, 1988 meeting acting upon your application for the above referenced subject as follows: The wall signs only were approved as follows: North elevation: 16" X 28' ( 38. 5 sq. ft. ) channel/silhouette illuminated letters reading "Jupiter Tequesta National Bank", located above the drive thru teller area. 4' X 5' ( 20 sq. ft. ) logo on north side of building. • Northwest elevation: 3' X 15' ( 45 sq. ft. ) sign "Jupiter Tequesta National Bank" with logo. The Board requested that the building number be added on the northwest side of the building at the 2nd floor balcony. Building numbering is to match sign lettering. The free standing sign was tabled and is to be resubmitted with additional site landscaping consideration. r a TEa►rsr,� ,► IW K• I ro�na r /o,ra 'f ►AKtAIE To COMPLY - - - — I II _ — �' - Itielo�or�l�caornrll� IN THE M�EIti1r oOs/,• '_ _ - _ _ Tt>IICE FON M�DIIIC 1 Jupiter : Jjjfr p Testa - 11 I;Natil nk �R i It1r..1 gal 1 4,10v-rtr. ' ) er+v wlgN srpol.l V4,,,-Lr Y£1 . II • AO I r �! Jupiter Tequesta National ••i11� ...••••"' %WV . 4). 1'1'1 Ie- �1Ja1NSaL�<.I�+I�a IIJa�Mi,tn C I G .b.tit* �I0 � F i NI WV-FIRS r <ler F1'+FY,•Tiv�rtNi j `ITS ••� s• 1 1 I M JP y • • ' • x ri•a Lever20- rr . / , I ) ...._____... ,......1,;•1.:-: ::.:-...!-....-•;.'• • . ..:.: :.":. ::•.'...--- • 6 .‘,..,%,t.-:-..,....s .:.. .. . ..-4,,,,,,..-,,: 7-,-.....1, ," ....,..,.., ....: . ,...,,,,„ .,:.,., ;,!. ,,,.........,... . _— 1e,1------ t • jI 1 I IMti k",S aS.1a' raw.4.6 \ I Jupiter Tequesta Natioifi I ialapoPKI or L-PITIVF- reR:tnal Bank 4 • r11: ,: ,�, t:.. ir. 1:f::. ::; N -�J�IV r_�'.'E.,�`P�rJ t,n 11 k ie I. s.,-,-.,—(-sHN-4, . 6, I ?OSP imimma r..... Page 2 Mr. Ferrin This approval has no bearing or relationship any other approvals or permits which may be required. The building department should be contacted in this regard. �- Sincerely yours, VILLAGE OF TEOUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Apt �o. (1/47(add Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board SDL: j ms cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager Building Official A. ` � /$ VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA 50•00 APPLICATION FOR CbMMUNITY APPEARANCE REVIEW .AME OF APPLICANT: Church of the Good Shepherd MAILING ADDRESS: 400 Seabrook Rd. , Tequesta,-fL. 33469 DATE: 8/1/88 PHONE NUMBER: ( HOME) (407)746-8641 ( BUSINESS) (407)746-4674 LOT/PARCEL ADDRESS: 400 Seabrook Rd. Tequesta, FL. 33469 PROPERTY CONTROL NUMBER: 60-42-40-25-00-05230 DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION, ADDITION AND/OR Removal of two (2) ALTERATION: concrete block buildings and replacement with two (2) w buildin s of concrete block (CBS) , and additional parking areas. • PROPERTY OWNER: Church of the Good Shepherd OTE: APPLICANT SHALL INC.............................................. ......... ' LUDE THE FOLLOWING WITH THE APPLICATION: 1• TWO ( 2) SETS OF EXISTING PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED SITE PLANS SHOWING ALL AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES, LAYSTT, INGRESSD AND EGRSTR, SETBACKS, PARKING IRRIGATION, EXTERIOR LIGHTING LAYOUT. AND WALKWAYS, LANDSCAPING 2. MULTI-DIMENSIONAL COLOR RENDERING. 3• TWO ( 2) SETS OF OFES • EXISTING PROPOSED BUILDINGSION LLY PREPAREDTYPE OF ROOF AND ROOF COVERING, AND WINDOW IDH OOL EATy BIGNAG ALL AND DOOR TREATMENTS. E. 4. WRITTEN APPROVAL FROM PROPERTY OWNER. S. ANY OTHER DOCUMENTATION PERTINENT TO THIS 6. APPLICATION FEE OF FIFTY SSO. pp) APPLICATION. ANY APPLICATION. DOLLARS FOR EACH APPEARANCE PER APPLICANT' S SIGNATURE: Allen F. Ho ge , Se for Warden NOTE: ALL RENDERINGS, .LL BECOME THE PROPERTY OFOTHESVILLAGESOFETE' SUBMITTED TO THE VILLAGE QUESTA. ) .; f R � • i a 1 , 1 d • e k. a _ :x- = ' :; ? 1 NI d Ada t., i ' . ., ..z.,_.:.:._.... -... .... / -.: -k• . • 'ad \ ? ram. :1 �a , i did • �! �. 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MIN it • •_ • I I f II �JMil ` 10 --�- 140 itc ' 'I 2 oDio c • �.r�► I 9 • Opk. . 3 HANDICAPPED SPACES • i • III • ---- SMACKtS' SMACK LIME I' � I • . . •'1- ' r 8 1 ir !, ,. :`ol9 f/IDES i�.. 7O• irs. • .: ' 4..0 ' :MIIIIIIM j OD. .• 7 I----"N : 0 .: - •...., .ji i ,. .. .�. _..._.. �- 1 .., tali \ / 1 • • OUTLINE OF EXISTING PAVING N' meson STRIP 470•00' ..�� • 4 TV SETMR UK'. .14 G1411 INI) 1 EXISTING CHURCH 2 PROPOSED ADDITION O EXISTING TREE TO REMAIN 3 EXISTING PARISH HALL 4 EXISTING COURTYARD ( TO BE PRESERVED) EXISTING TREE TO BE REMOVED 5 PLAY YARD 6 SCREEN WALL & PLANTING (2) NEW TREE 7 PARKING (UNOAVED) 8 PARKING (PAVED) 9 DROP-OFF 10 SERVICE AREA 11 EXISTING BUILDING TO BE REMOVED 12 DUhiPSTER ENCLOSURE 13 UNDEVELOPED PORTION OF SITE (NATURAL VEGETATION) G W a.00� VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA � „'' BUILDING DEPARTMENT ` .,c Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 August 16, 1988 Mr. Alan M. Strassler in M. Strassler Architects, Inc. 8895 N. Military Tr. , 201D Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 Dear Mr. Strassler: Subject: Application for Community Appearance Board review. Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the August 24, 1988 meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at which time they will consider your application for the following: 1. Finalization of site lighting and landscaping for the entire County Line Plaza. 2. A 43,025 square foot property addition and a 6, 720 square foot addition on Building "A", at County Line Plaza. Receipt of your check No. 521294 in the amount of $50. 00 for the application is hereby acknowledged. Also enclosed is a statement pertaining to the functions of the Board. You and/or your representative must be in attendance at the meeting to answer any questions the Board might have in regard to your application. If a representative is not present, the Board will withhold action until a later date. Very truly Yours, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD • Scott D. Ladd ,,, Clerk of the Boar jms encl. Cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Building Official Village Manager Pant l in Assoc. ire VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT • . Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 August 16, 1988 Mr. Howard E. Ferrin Ferrin Signs, Inc. P. 0. Box 1750 West Palm Beach, FL 33402 Dear Mr. Ferrin: • Subject: Application for Community Appearance Board review for a change in the colors of previously approved signage for the Jupiter Tequesta National Bank, 250 Tequesta Drive. Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the August 24, 1988 meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at which time they will consider referenced subject. Receipt of your application for the above of $50. 00 for the application is herebyour cacknowledgedheck No. 8 in the amount Also enclosed is a statement pertaining to the functions of the Board. You and/or your representative must be in attendance at the meeting to answer any questions the Board might have in regard to your application. If a representative is not present, the Board will withhold action until a later date. Very truly yours, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board ims encl. cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Building Official Village Manager ,s,e p VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT 'j Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 August 16, 1988 Mr. Richard A. Smith Church of the Good Shepherd 400 Seabrook Road Tequesta, FL 33469 Dear Mr. Smith: Subject: Application for Community Appearance . Board review to construct 'two new buildings and additional the Church of the Good Shepherd, 400 Seabrook Road. at Enclosed is . a copy of the notice of the August 24, 1988 meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at which time they will consider your application for the above referenced subject. Receipt of your check No. 37 of $50. 00 for the application is hereby acknowledged5 in the amount Also enclosed is a statement pertaining to the functions of the Board. You and/or your representative must be in attendance at the meeting to answer any questions the Board might have in regard to Your application. If a representative is not present, the Board will withhold action until a later date. Very truly yours. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD / ztzz % 14' Scott D. Ladd 7� Clerk of the Boar • "juts encl. cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Building Official Village Manager VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA ,;`� BUILDING DEPARTMENT Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: AUGUST 30, 1988 MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT: 9: 08 A. M. BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: COOK YES COBLE NO COBEN YES GETTIG YES ( 9: 30) FRANK YES DALACK YES COLLINS YES APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES: _ _ MEETING DATE: AUGUST 24, 1988 COMMENTS: MOTION TO APPROVE BY: CHAIRMAN COOK VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK YES COBLE --- COBEN YES GETTIG --- FRANK YES DALACK YES COLLINS YES 1 MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: AUGUST 30, 1988 APPLICANT * 1: ALAN M. STRASSLER FOR COUNTY LINE PLAZA 500-680 U. S. HWY. *1 SUBJECT: FINALIZATION OF LANDSCAPING FOR ENTIRE PLAZA MAJOR POINTS: THE APPLICATION WAS PRESENTED BY . ALAN M. STRASSLER, ARCHITECT, & THOMAS AIELLO AND MICHAEL SAGES FROM ROOD LANDSCAPING. MR. STRASSLER PRESENTED A REPLACEMENT LANDSCAPE PLAN KEEPING WITH THE VILLAGE THEME OF QUEEN PALMS. 15' TO 25' HEIGHT FOR QUEEN PALMS IN CLUSTERS. 10' LIVE OAK TREES DOWN CENTER OF ISLES. WITH PROPER MAINTENANCE AND WATER YOU CAN GET 2' GROWTH PER YEAR. NO SHRUBBERY IN PARKING LOT, JUST TREES AND SOD. MOTION BY: MEMBER GETTIG TO APPROVE XX DISAPPROVE AS SUBMITTED MODIFIED: XX _ - AS FOLLOWS: XX CHANGE NOTE INDICATING 422 JASMINE *3 TO INDICATE 422 PHILODENDRON. AT THE FRONT PERIMETER PLANTING BEDS, INSTALL PARSONS JUNIPER, DWARF OLEANDER, DWARF ALAMANDA, SELLOUM, PITTOSPORUM AND QUEEN PALM IN AN UNDULATING IRREGULAR BED VARYING FROM 3' ( FEET) TO 9' ( FEET) IN WIDTH TO FIRST ENTRY WAY ON THE SOUTH PROPERTY LINE ALONG NEW ROAD AND 150' . ( FEET) UP THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE TO THE WEST. SECOND BY: MEMBER COBEN VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE --- COBEN FOR GETTIG FOR FRANK FOR DALACK FOR COLLINS --- MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: AUGUST 30, 1988 ADDITIONAL BOARD COMMENTS: REQUEST COPY OF MOTION BE SENT TO ROOD LANDSCAPE. MEETING ADJOURNED AT: 10: 30 A. M. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, /Mt O. dad/ SCOTT D. LADD CLERK OF THE BOARD j ms cc:- MEMBERS & "ALT. MEMBERS, -- - -.-_---..__ __—- COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD -- VILLAGE MANAGER BUILDING OFFICIAL VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA ;j' - BUILDING DEPARTMENT � Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive `�► �� Tequesta.uesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 � MEMORANDUM: TO: Members and Alternate Members, Community Appearance Board Village Manager Building Official FROM: Scott D. Ladd, Clerk of the Board - .- DATE: August 26, 1988 SUBJECT: Community Appearance Board Meeting ( County Line Plaza) PLEASE NOTE DATE AND TIME CHANGE FOR MEETING Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the Community Appearance Board meeting to be held at 9: 00 A. M. , Tuesday, August 30, - 1988. - At- the August 24: 1988 C. A. B. meeting it was requested that the applicant reschedule the landscaping portion of his application for this date. Landscape plans for the plaza are available in the Building Department for your review prior to the meeting. Please notify the Building Official ' s office if you are unable to attend this meeting. Thank you. i ms • VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA ;f- BUILDING DEPARTMENT . ..c�- Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive ltrr, Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 NOTICE OF MEETING COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD AUGUST 30, 1988 The Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board will hold a meeting at 9: 00 A. M. , Tuesday, August 30, 1988 in the Village Hall Council Chambers, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida, to consider: 1. An application from Alan M. Strassler for finalization of landscaping for the entire County Line Plaza, 500-680 U. S. Hwy. One. Please be advised that if any person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board at this meeting, he will need a record of the proceedings and for such purpose, it will be necessary to insure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made to support the testimony and evidence upon which an appeal is to be based. - VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Leslie A. Cook, Chairperson Ie &C/J By: Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board cc: Board Members Bldg. Official Village Manager News Media Posted: August 26, 1988 VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA • I BUILDING DEPARTMENT Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive `:' N7- ~ Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 r August 25, 1988 Mr. Alan M. Strassler Alan M. Strassler Architects, Inc. 8895 N. Military Tr. . 201D Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 Dear Mr. Strassler: Subject: Community Appearance Board review of final landscaping for County Line Plaza. Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the August 30, 1988 meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at which time they will consider your application for the above subject matter. Also enclosed is a statement pertaining to the functions of the Board. You and/or your representative must be in attendance at the meeting to answer any questions the Board might have in regard to your application. If a representative is not present, the Board will withhold action until a later date. Very truly yours. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD dtfiJ. c/d Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board i ms encl. cc: Leslie .Cook, Chairperson Building Official Village Manager Pantlin Assoc. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA . , __AZ.,.,. ,,' BUILDING DEPARTMENT jp . (4-11.R. -71-r-s#::411\• : Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 September 6, 1988 • Mr. Alan M. Strassler Alan Strassler Architects, Inc. 8895 N. Military Tr. , 201D Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33410 Dear Alan: Subject: Community Appearance Board review of landscaping for County Line Plaza. This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the August 30, 1988 meeting approving your application for finalization of landscaping for the entire Plaza, as follows: Change note indicating 422 Jasmine *3 to indicate 422 Philodendron. At the front perimeter planting beds, install Parsons Juniper, Dwarf Oleander, Dwarf Alamanda, Selloum, Pittosporum and Queen Palm in an undulating irregular bed varying from 3' ( feet) to 9' ( feet) in width to first entry way on the south property line along new road and 150' ( feet) up the north property line to the west. This approval has no bearing or relationship on any other approvals or permits which might be required. The Building Department should be contacted in this regard. Very truly yours. la ,D• ofacq Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board jms cc: Leslie Cook, Chairman Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager Pantlin Assoc. Thomas Aiello, Rood Landscaping , I I !% VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT . .1 ii/••c ,,, Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive'_- - Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD/PLANNING COMMISSION ( JOINT MEETING) MINUTES OF THE MEETING SEPTEMBER 21, 1988 A joint meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board and Planning Commission was held on Wednesday, September 21. 1988 in the Village Hall, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida. Community Appearance Board members present were: Chairperson Leslie A. Cook, Janet Gettig and Claudette Dalack. Planning Commission members present were: Chairman Dr. Stanley Jacobs, Eloda Tangney, Alfred DeMott and James W. Pilz. Also present were: Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager, Wendy K. Harrison, Administrative Assistant to the Village Manager, Gary Preston, Public Works and Recreation Director, Scott D. Ladd, Building Official and clerk of the Community Appearance Board, Ron T. Mackail, Mayor, Carlton Stoddard, former Mayor, and James Park and Mark Bidwell of Gee & Jenson. Architects, Engineers, Planners, Inc. The meeting was called to order at 10: 39 A. M. by Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager. Mr. Bradford began the meeting with a brief history of the Tequesta Drive improvement project and bringing everyone present up to date on the status of the proposed project. Mr. Bradford then turned the meeting over to Mr. Park and Mr. Bidwell who presented several colored sign elevations and several Tequesta Drive median drawings showing different landscaping formats. Approximately ' an hour. and a half of discussion followed among the persons in attendance with regard to the various proposals. Attention focused mainly around the Village of Tequesta. Tequesta Drive entrance sign with support from various individuals for both the center median single sign location proposal and for the two sign proposal wherein there would be a sign at the Step Saver corner and a sign at the Barnett Bank corner. Pro and con concerns were also voiced with regard to the types of sign materials proposed for the sign construction. the overall height and length of the proposed signs. the color schemes proposed, the sign lettering style and size, the shape of the corner signs; i. e. , curved versus straight line, the types '. Page 2 Meeting Minutes C. A. B. /Planning Commission Sept. 21, 1988 lighting characteristics of the proposed signs and the liability and maintenance concerns for each of the proposals. At the end of the discussion with regard to all the various aspects of the proposals, it was determined that several differences of opinion remained as to what proposal to go with so the Community Appearance Board and the Planning Commission were instructed to meet separately with as many of their respective members as possible and to generate a consensus of opinion as to what each Board would support. The gentlemen from Gee & Jenson. Mr. Park and Mr. Bidwell, were directed to prepare some new color drawings implementing the various design, size, color, lettering and location comments voiced at the meeting in order to present same at a future joint meeting. There being no other business before the joint C. A. B. /Planning Commission, the meeting was adjourned at 12: 02 P. M. Respectfullydoe submitted, D. dad Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board SDL: j ms cc: Thomas G. Bradford Wendy K. Harrison Gary Preston Members & Alt. Members, C. A. B. Members Planning Commission • I (/ • a, .4. , tf. YS VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA l BUILDING DEPARTMENT ? ,4 Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive —�` Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: SEPTEMBER 28, 1988 MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT: 9: 42 A. M. BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT: COOK YES COBLE YES COBEN YES GETTIG --- FRANK YES DALACK --- COLLINS YES APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES: MEETING DATE: COMMENTS: MOTION TO POSTPONE APPROVAL BY: MEMBER COBLE VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE FOR COBEN FOR GETTIG --- FRANK FOR DALACK s - COLLINS FOR _ 4 MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: SEPTEMBER 28, 1988 • APPLICANT * 1: JEANNE McGINN, A COUNTRY CHRISTMAS STORE 383-B TEQUESTA DRIVE ( GALLERY SQUARE NORTH) SUBJECT: TWO STORE SIGNS: FRONT OF STORE: 2' x 8' WOOD SIGN REAR OF STORE: 5' x 5' WOOD SIGN MAJOR POINTS: ROB DUERSTEN OF A COUNTRY CHRISTMAS STORE PRESENTED APPLICATION. BOARD LOOKED AT CERTAIN PHOTOS OF THE STORES ON EITHER SIDE AND AT THE REAR OF THE APPLICANT' S STORE AND AGREED TO THE REQUESTED SIGN COLORS EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NUMEROUS OTHER COLORS BEING USED FOR SIGNAGE THROUGHOUT THE SHOPPING CENTER, CONSENSUS BEING THAT THE COLORS WERE NOT OBJECTIONABLE. THE APPLICANT' S SIGNS ARE EXISTING SIGNS THAT WERE USED AT A PREVIOUS STORE LOCATION. MOTION BY: MEMBER FRANK TO APPROVE XX DISAPPROVE AS SUBMITTED XX MODIFIED: AS FOLLOWS: SECOND BY: MEMBER COBLE VOTE ON THE MOTION: COOK FOR COBLE FOR COBEN FOR GETTIG --- RAI FOR DALACK --- COLLINS FOR 1. MEETING MINUTES COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING DATE: SEPTEMBER 28, 1988 ADDITIONAL BOARD COMMENTS: NONE MEETING ADJOURNED AT: 10: 02 A. M. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, ,fir,. da { SCOTT D. LADD CLERK OF THE BOARD SDL: j ms cc: MEMBERS & ALT. MEMBERS, COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD VILLAGE MANAGER BUILDING OFFICIAL VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA BUILDING DEPARTMENT .: N Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive 47Ac ` Tequesta. Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 October 6, 1988 Jeanne McGinn Rob Duersten A Country Christmas Store 383—B Tequesta Drive Tequesta, FL 33469 Dear Ms. McGinn & Mr. Duersten: Subject: Your application for Community Appearance Board review for two wall signs for "A Country Christmas Store", 383—B Tequesta Drive. This letter is to confirm the action of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at the September 28, 1988 meeting approving your application for the above referenced subject as submitted. Approval is for a 2' X 8' wood wall sign for the front of your store and a 5' X 5' wood sign at the rear on Seabrook Road. This approval has no bearing or relationship to any other approvals or permits which might be required. The Village of Tequesta building department should be contacted in this regard. Sincerely yours, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD hitt 6. Ord/ Scott D. Ladd -- Clerk of the Board SDL: j ms cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager Building Official • VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA 4 !' BUILDING DEPARTMENT • ?,�,.� - Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive -' =-! • Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 MEMORANDUM: TO: Members and Alternate Members, Community Appearance Board Village Manager Building Official nn� FROM: Scott D. Ladd, Clerk of the Board Sf DATE: September 23, 1988 SUBJECT: Community Appearance Board Meeting Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the Community Appearance Board meeting to be held at 9: 30 A. M. , Wednesday, September 28, 1988. Also attached is a copy of the application. Please notify the Building Official' s office if you are unable to attend this meeting. Thank you. jms encl . I VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA ''' '�' BUILDING DEPARTMENT "► A1� Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive ` '+ _ Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 NOTICE OF MEETING COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD SEPTEMBER 28, 1988 The Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board will hold a meeting at 9: 30 A. M. , Wednesday. September 28, 1988 in the Village Hall Council Chambers, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta. Florida, to consider: 1. An application from Jeanne McGinn, owner of "A Country Christmas Store", 383—B Tequesta Drive for two wall signs, a 2' X 8' sign over entrance, and a 5' X 5' sign at rear. Please be advised that if any person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board at this meeting, he will need a record of the proceedings and for such purpose, it will be necessary to insure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made to support the testimony and evidence upon which an appeal is to be based. VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD Leslie A. Cook. Chairperson Att o -dead( - By: Scott D. Ladd Clerk of the Board cc: Board Members Bldg. Official Village Manager Naw News Media - Posted: September 23, 19-8 • M • CKd D3"7g VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA SO .CX.) APPLICATION FOR COMMUNITY APPEARANCE REVIEW NAME OF APPLICANT: Jeanne McGann DATE: c MAILING ADDRESS: S33 8 7Z4:14 37ji DC- PHONE NUMBER: ( HOME) ?W-7, VV ( BUSINESS) 575 y'v,3l LOT/PARCEL ADDRESS: PROPERTY CONTROL NUMBER: DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION, ADDITION AND/OR ALTERATION: Stone Aigw5 —, . • PROPERTY OWNER: ac,u5 H CampbeX.r a5 Agent ion ownous S J McKay, Sara B RichancLs £ .R_Ckane NOTE: APPLICANT SHALL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING WITH THE APPLICATION: 1. TWO ( 2 ) SETS OF PROFESSIONALLY PREPARED SITE PLANS SHOWING ALL EXISTING AND PROPOSED STRUCTURES, SETBACKS, PARKING AND LOADING LAYOUT, INGRESS AND EGRESS, SIDEWALKS AND WALKWAYS, LANDSCAPING AND IRRIGATION, EXTERIOR LIGHTING LAYOUT. 2. MULTI-DIMENSIONAL ,COLOR RENDERING. 3. 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Florida 33469-0273 • (407) 746-7515 ,,,,,,, September 23, 1988 Ms. Jeanne McGinn A Country Christmas Store 383—B Tequesta Drive Tequesta, FL 33469 Dear Ms. McGinn: Subject: Application for Community Appearance Board review to erect two wall signs at 383—B Tequesta Drive. Enclosed is a copy of the notice of the September 28, 1988 meeting of the Village of Tequesta Community Appearance Board at which time they will consider your application for the above referenced subject. Receipt of your check No. 2378 in the amount of $50. 00 for the application is hereby acknowledged. Also enclosed is a statement pertaining to the functions of the Board. You and/or your representative must be in attendance at the meeting to answer any questions the Board might have in regard to your application. If a representative is not present, the Board will withhold action until a later date. Very truly yours, VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD hkI _.. Sett D. Ladd Clerk of the Board ` jms �_ �.. end l. cc: Leslie Cook, Chairperson Bujding Official Village Manager