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VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA
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VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA
REDEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
NOVEMBER 19, 1997
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The Tequesta Redevelopment Committee held a regularly
scheduled meeting at the Village Hall, 357 Tequesta Drive,
Tequesta, Florida, on Wednesday, November 19, 1997. The
meeting was called to order at 8:35 A.M. by Chairman Carl
Hansen. A roll call was taken by Betty Laur, the Recording
Secretary. In attendance were: Chairman Carl C. Hansen,
and Co-Chair Joseph Capretta. Also in attendance were:
Village Manager Thomas G. Bradford and Village Clerk Joann
Manganiello, and Department Heads. Co-Chair Ron T. Mackail
was absent from the meeting.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Chair Hansen made a motion to accept the agenda as
submitted. Co-Chair Capretta seconded the motion. The vote
on the motion was:
Carl C. Hansen - for
Joseph N. Capretta - for
The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the .agenda
was accepted as submitted.
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III. COMMUNICATIONS FROM CITIZENS
There were no communications from citizens. .
IV. DISCUSSION RELATIVE TO THE EXTENT AND DEGREE OF (CATEGORY)
HURRICANE HARDENING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITIES
Village Clerk Manganiello introduced Gee & Jenson Architect
Lisa Lemanowicz, and announced that the Structural Engineer
in charge of the hurricane hardening aspect of the project,
Chris Pruitt, would be arriving shortly.
Village Clerk Manganiello explained that Architects Gee &
Jenson had completed approximately 30% of the design. and
were at the point where they needed direction regarding the
degree and amount of hurricane hardening desired. The
Village Clerk commented that Gee & Jenson' s original
proposal had called for new construction as well as
renovated construction to be built to a category 2
(sustained wind speed of . 96 to 110 mph) ; , and for the
dispatch area to be hurricane hardened to category 3 (111 -
130 mph sustained wind speed) at a cost of $30, 000
additional. At a meeting which included Police Chief.
Allison, Fire Chief Weinand, Gee & Jenson architects and
engineers, and Village Clerk Manganiello, discussion was
held regarding the possibility of hurricane hardening the
whole western wing of the police department including
dispatch, as well as the current apparatus bays and new
construction for the fire rescue facility, for which the.
cost would be an additional $170, 000. The Village Clerk
pointed out that the Village Hall was built at best to a
category 2, that when a new Village Hall was built all or a
portion of it could be built to a higher category, and that
the Village was in a storm surge zone and was very likely to
have damage from flooding instead of high wind speeds.
Fire Chief Weinand reviewed the storm surge map, and
explained that the decision must be made as to how long
everyone would stay in the Village during a storm, and
indicated that even though the map indicated that the
location of the public safety facilities would not
experience storm surge, the map did not take into
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consideration wave action, which would most probably cause
the whole Village to be flooded in a category 4 or 5 storm.
Chief Weinand stated that if it was determined that some
people would not evacuate during a category 2 storm, then
hurricane hardening should be built to a category 2 or 3; if
everyone was evacuated then the Village should no longer
provide services; and that a line must be drawn indicating
when evacuation would be done. Village Clerk Manganiello
explained that residents were being told they should leave
the area at the time of hurricane warnings because of the
danger of flooding; and that at winds of 60 mph police
vehicles would be off the roads and at 70 mph fire rescue
vehicles would no longer travel. If areas of the facilities
were hardened to a category 3 level, public safety personnel
could be housed for a longer period of time, and the public
safety operations center would be located there, including
a minimum dispatch system. The Village Clerk explained that
everyone should leave before the storm reached the category
the buildings were hardened to, and that accessibility to
roads would be lost when flooded.
Fire Chief Weinand commented that the relation between
flooding and the degree of hardening was to help determine
when access to land would be cut off and at what point in
time people would be in town; and explained that the odds
must be weighed considering the storm surge and tides and
the decision must be made when to do a forced mandatory
evacuation, at which time no one should remain in the
Village. Services would no longer be provided after
residents had evacuated. Chief Weinand commented that the
decision must be made whether services would be provided
immediately after the storm or a few hours later.
Co-Chair Capretta stated that evacuation must be
accomplished by a certain time or people must stay because
roads would be flooded and they couldn't leave. In the
scenario ' of a person who had decided to stay and then
realized they had made a mistake, that person would have to
decide whether to remain in his home or to go to the Village
Hall; if his decision was to go to Village Hall and he could
not get there he would call the police to come get him; but.
police vehicles would not be operating when winds reached 60
mph. Co-Chair Capretta commented that there was a very
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narrow time of when public safety could help someone who had
decided they wanted to go; that the decision of when to
leave must be made based on predictions; and that the best
plan would be to have mandatory evacuation very early. Mr.
Capretta explained that if the decision to leave was not
made based on predictions that people might not be able to
leave in time because roads would be jammed with traffic.
Fire Chief Weinand commented that a Palm Beach County
traffic analysis had indicated it would take 56 hours to
evacuate in a category 4 or 5 hurricane. During discussion,
Co-Chair Capretta commented that the Village should do a
much stronger job of forcing people to leave early, to which
Chief Weinand responded that at category 2 level roads would
be under water and supplies could not get in. Evacuation
routes going west or south were discussed, since most people
would go north. Co-chair Capretta commented that literature
should be sent out to residents indicating alternate
evacuation routes; and explained that people were concerned
with their homes withstanding wind when flooding was more
probable.
Chair Hansen expressed concern that services could not be
provided after the emergency vehicles and personnel were off
the roads, and questioned whether the . standard of
construction planned for the building pods would bring the
construction to category 2. Village Clerk Manganiello
responded that was correct, and that the original proposal
called for hardening the dispatch area only; and also
clarified that the question before the Committee was whether
to spend an additional $170, 000 to harden both pods to a
category 3. Architect Lisa Le7manowicz commented that even
though public safety personnel might not be in the building
during a category 4 if construction was built to the upper
limits of a category 3, there would be a building to come
back to after the storm even though it might be flooded, and
personnel would be able to serve the public after they
returned, so the decision needed to be made whether public
safety personnel would remain during the upper limits of a
category 3, etc.
Chair Hansen discussed doing only a portion of the proposal,
limiting the additional hardening to the fire department.
Village Clerk Manganiello responded that the project could
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be divided so that only a portion was done. Co-Chair
Capretta commented that people did not prepare for a flood
and that Village equipment should be raised to a certain
level to accommodate flood water. Chief Weinand responded
that discussions had been held regarding placing radio
equipment and computers up to approximately a 4-foot level.
Architect Lemanowicz commented that since Village Hall was
already 4 feet higher than other buildings, so water would
have to rise to 8 feet to reach the equipment. Fire Chief
Weinand commented the fire trucks could withstand a lot of
water but could not withstand high winds.
The problem of where to keep the fire trucks was discussed.
Co-Chair Capretta commented that the safest nearby place
would be the Jupiter Hills Golf Course shelter. Chief
'Weinand commented on the possibility of leasing ground in
that area so that fire trucks could be taken there during a
storm, and brought back quickly to the Village after the
storm. Co-Chair Capretta discussed the timing issue of
making the decision of when to get the equipment and the
people out.
Chair Hansen questioned how the Village could be assured the
construction was actually built to a certain degree of
hardening. Structural Engineer Chris Pruitt responded that
specifications within the construction documents would
require manufacturers of doors, windows, straps, etc., to
provide evidence their products could withstand certain.
levels.
Chair Hansen commented that he was leaning toward hardening
the Fire Department to category 3, and asked the cost for
that portion of the proposal and for staff recommendations.
Chief Weinand responded that dispatch also must pe protected
as well as the fire trucks because without communications
the trucks would not know where to go. Discussion ensued
regarding the cost. Architect Lemanowicz explained that the
original estimate had been high; therefore, the present
estimate was only $30, 000 to harden the police pod so that
it could provide a sustainable environment with restroom and
lounge facilities, and that was $30, 000 of the $170, 000
additional cost required to do both pods.
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Co-Chair Capretta summarized the decisions that must be
made:
1. Whether an evacuation center would be provided for the
public;
2. Whether facilities would be provided where public safety
personnel could stay throughout a storm;
3. Where equipment such as 'ambulances and fire trucks could
be kept during a storm; •
4. How much time should be allowed for people to leave, for
personnel to leave, and to get the equipment stored for
protection;
5. How much to harden facilities so that they can withstand
a surge of water so that public safety employees can
return.
Village Manager Bradford expressed his opinion that building
a citizen evacuation center would be a mistake since people
would not be able to get there. If there were such a
facility everyone would want to go there, and the Village
could not build a facility large enough to accommodate
everyone. The Village Manager commented that the future new
Village Hall could be built to a higher elevation to
withstand flooding; but for the present the Village must
work with the existing buildings.. Village Manager Bradford
questioned what the police would do during a storm, to which
Police Chief Allison responded half the police fleet would
be moved out of town, two dispatchers and a sergeant would
remain in front, and the remaining police personnel would
stay in the emergency operations center with the Fire
Department; however, in a category 4 or 5 storm no one would
remain.
Co-Chair Capretta discussed possibilities for equipment
storage, and stated that if emergency vehicles were
evacuated to Jupiter Hills they could return in
approximately 20 minutes, however, if they were evacuated to
Indiantown it could take hours to return because there would
be trees blocking roadways and roads would be closed.
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Chair Hansen inquired what the hurricane hardening category
was for the new facilities being built by Palm Beach County.
Structural Engineer Pruitt responded that each community
decided their own categories and that coastal communities
usually built to higher categories. In response to Chair
Hansen's question of whether public safety personnel would
remain in town longer if the buildings were hardened to
category 3, Fire Chief Weinand responded that they would
stay longer and that the category decided upon would
determine the plan; and if both pods were hardened to
category 3 and the rest of the facilities destroyed that
public safety could still operate normally. Chief Weinand
explained that logistics after the storm would be an
important part of the plan, and that the fire rescue
facilities had a kitchen and an emergency generator which
could be used after the storm, which would be needed to
sustain operations for 48 to 72 hours when supplies could be
brought in. Chief Weinand commented that one positive was
that Tequesta's dune ridge was the highest in the County at
22 feet, which would break up a lot of the wave action.
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The cost to harden both pods was discussed, which Architect
Lemanowicz estimated to be $170, 000 in additional funds; but
which she explained could fluctuate when it went out for
bidding. Ms. Lemanowicz commented that if money was saved
in another part of the project, then more could be used for
hurricane hardening.
Co-Chair Capretta inquired whether the Fire and Police
departments had a detailed plan of where things would be
stored, how high equipment would be raised, and whether
different locations had been determined for where data would
be stored. Fire Chief Weinand responded that everything had
been worked out except a plan for the current Village Hall
building, and that an emergency plan could be written to any
category chosen for hurricane hardening.
Tom Little commented that the Village would not be able to
protect people who stayed in town and that people would stay
to protect their property from looters. Mr. Little advised
that everyone should leave and the residents must be sold on
how dangerous it would be to stay; and if people waited too
long roads would be jammed and they. would not be able to
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leave. Mr. Little commented that he planned to go south;
and a basic fuel evaluation indicated that there would not
be enough fuel for cars trying to go north. Chair Hansen
commented that the problem of what to do immediately after
the storm should be addressed, when looting would begin.
Village Manager Bradford explained that Topsail Beach, North
Carolina, placed roadblocks on all streets $o that no one
could enter, and the Village could do something similar.
Fire Chief Weinand commented that Topsail Beach was a
coastal community similar to Hutchinson Island and there
were only two ways into the community_ During discussion of
fuel to operate the generator, Structural Engineer Pruitt
explained that there was an open area with a 6-foot wall
indicated as a diesel fuel storage area in the plan, which
he recommended be protected from the elements because of the
problem of debris impact.
Co-Chair Capretta made a motion to accept the recommendation
to hurricane harden both western pods of the new facilities
to a category 3. Chair Hansen seconded the motion. The
vote on the motion was:
Carl C. Hansen - for
Joseph N. Capretta - for
The motion was therefore passed and adopted.
V. ANY OTHER MATTERS
There were no other matters to come before the Committee.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
Co-Chair Capretta made a motion to adjourn the meeting.
Chair Hansen seconded the motion. The vote on the motion .
was:
Carl C. Hansen - for
Joseph N. Capretta - for
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The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the meeting
was adjourned at 9:47 A.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Betty Laur
Recording Secretary
ATTEST:
Joann Manganiello
Village Clerk
DATE APPROVED: