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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes_Planning and Zoning_10/5/2006 • VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD MEETING MINUTES OCTOBER 5, 2006 I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL The Village of Tequesta Planning and Zoning Advisory Board held a regularly scheduled meeting at the Tequesta Recreation Center, 399 Seabrook Road, Tequesta, Florida, on Thursday, October 5, 2006. The meeting was called to order at 6:31 P.M. by Chair Elizabeth Schauer. A roll call was taken by Village Clerk Gwen Carlisle.'Board members present were: Chair Elizabeth Schauer, Vice Chair Steve Okun, Board Member Leslie Cook, Board Member Royce Hood. Absent from the meeting were Board Member Charles Reinwald and Alternate Board Member Carl Blasé. Alternate Russell Von Frank was seated on the dias. Also in attendance were Clerk of the Board and Community Development Director Catherine Harding, and Village Clerk Gwen Carlisle. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Board member Okun moved approval of the agenda with the date corrected to August 3, 2006 for item 3, Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes. Board member Von Frank seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the Agenda was approved as amended. III. APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES MOTION: Board member Von Frank made a motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of August 3, 2006. Board member Hood seconded the motion,which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. IV. NEW BUSINESS A) Sign Application for Keyes Real Estate — Mitenco, Property Owner, 218 N. U.S. Highway One, Tequesta; Sign Craft, Applicant, 8355 Garden Road, West Palm Beach, Florida 33404 Community Development Director Catherine Harding advised the applicant had been advised of this meeting; however, no one was present to represent the applicant. Board member Cook asked if the sign was already there. Ms. Harding explained it was an existing monument sign. It had been shared with an attorney, who was no longer there. Board member Cook commented the colors were garish and the background of the sign did not match the Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5,2006 Meeting Minutes Page 2 • background of the building. Ms. Harding explained this application was only for the applied letters on the building itself, and the reason for the application was they had gone over the total amount of square footage permitted on the property; therefore, this was an application for additional square footage for - the sign. This sign could not be permitted because the applicant had been over the amount of square footage on their initial sign. They were permitted a • 60-square foot sign area, which they already had, and this new sign on the building was 21.24 square feet. The board had an option to approve a new • sign on the building with the colors they chose, or to deny it because the size exceeded the total area of signage permitted. Ms. Harding explained that applicants who exceeded the allowed area had to have board approval to add more square footage. Discussion ensued. Building colors were not before the board tonight—only if the applicant came in and requested to repaint the building. Board member Cook stated she wished to make a motion to deny because they should follow the Village code. Vice Chair Okun stated he would be inclined to consider the application if there had not been such an identifiable monument sign. Ms. Harding advised the applicant could appeal to the Village Council, but she seriously doubted the Council would approve it. Vice Chair Okun commented his concern was the applicant had no representation at this meeting to at least balance the argument. Board member Cook stated she had been thinking there was leeway for them to make the sign smaller, and therefore she wished to withdraw her motion. The Village Clerk advised there had been no second. Board member Cook responded her motion was not seconded so she did not have to withdraw it, and was advised it would be proper to withdraw it to comply with Robert's Rules of Order. Vice Chair Okun advised Robert's Rules of Order required a motion, then discussion, then to act on it. MOTION: • Board member Cook made a motion to deny the application for excessive signage on property located at 218 N. U.S. Highway One, Tequesta, Florida. Board member Von Frank seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. • (�B) e� yat►oriand I'aintrng�Apl�cation fo4r•:1 equesta Pa.ms�In (Form7er'1'y `�+ �.+� r, ��,r Fr T`ax -The Cologn�eMo�tel IJL S)220iJ1 �Ihgh'rvatyh t ri`e, Tequesta, Flo rda:E • Community Development Director Harding explained that this applicant was coming in to request approval for renovations and change of paint color on the old Cologne Motel at 220 U.S. Highway One. Davis Vanderver, Hotel Manager, stated he was speaking on behalf of the applicant. Community Development Director Harding clarified the applicant was applying to do interior and exterior renovations to the site, adding kitchens, Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5,2006 Meeting Minutes Page 3 and additional utilities they did not have. Mr. Vanderver indicated there was a shed that was to be torn down and replaced with a new one exactly like it, which was on the plans, and it would contain a washer and dryer, soda machine, ice machine and candy machine. Marie Rosner stated she was present on behalf of the owner, as support for the manager, Mr. Vanderver. Ms. Rosner explained the applicant wanted to change the whole persona and profile that came into the hotel. A board with paint colors was presented that they would like approved. The rooms would be gorgeous, and the hotel would be so nice that residents could send overflow holiday guests to the hotel. They wanted to really clean it up and have a whole new ambience. Rates would be changed also; it would be very upscale. The owner had stated if anything occurred like in the past he would throw the people out, and Mr. Vanderver had been instructed to run a tight ship. They wanted nice people to come, and they would be taken care of Chair Schauer asked the reason there were no landscaping plans. Vice Chair Okun advised it would be in the best interest of the applicant to have landscaping to make this an upscale property. Ms. Rosner commented she thought the landscaping that was existing would suffice for what the applicant wanted to do. Chair Schauer explained her problem with this was the whole picture was not presented for everything the applicant wanted to do, and this was one shot for the board to look at an application for approval. If they were planning a new pool, fencing would be required, and the.applicant would probably want some landscaping around it. Chair Schauer advised the board needed landscaping plans, and needed to know everything the applicant was planning to do on this site-the total picture. If anything were approved tonight, it would only be the change in the colors. Chair Schauer commented this was right on U.S. One, the only place within the Village for people to stay, and she wanted this to be something everyone would notice and be.proud of. Chair Schauer advised the applicant she was going to ask the board to table this so that the applicant could work with Ms. Harding and provide landscaping, and asked that they do something different. She stated at this point she could not approve the application as presented because it seemed like a piecemeal job. If this board approved it, when it got to the Village Council they would ask why Planning and Zoning didn't do their job because they wouldn't have landscaping or what would be around the pool, etc. Mr. Vanderver responded they didn't know what they were going to put around the pool because they didn't know if the board would approve a pool. Chair Schauer advised the board would probably allow the applicant to install a pool, and the applicant needed to give the board everything they wanted to do on the site—landscaping plans, an idea of how the inside was going to look. Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5, 2006 Meeting Minutes Page 4 Board member Cook commented she did not think the board was concerned with the inside. Board member Hood asked if there were a separate process for approving a pool. Ms. Harding advised the first part of the procedure was a conceptual architectural review of what the applicant was doing, which included a full site plan showing exactly what they were adding to the site and changes they were making. After they went through this board, they would proceed to Village Council for approval, after which building permits would be issued based on those approvals. They were here because building permits had been denied since it appeared they were doing much more to the site than the initial single permits being requested. Right now it was piecemeal without a whole picture of how the site was to be developed, and there might not be another opportunity for the board to see that. The building was being changed from single room occupancies to full-blown kitchens. Mr. Vanderver advised the kitchens were not full-blown—they already had a little stove and refrigerator, and they were adding a countertop with a sink, and the only other thing in there was a kitchen cabinet. Vice Chair Okun clarified the applicant had come in with too little for the scope of work they intended to do, and the board wanted them to succeed. Many people in the community would be delighted to see this upgrade to be an asset to the Village; however, coming in without a big picture that the board could appreciate and get behind the applicant made them wonder what the little pieces would be like if they put them all together, and what they hadn't seen. Vice Chair Okun advised that for all intents and purposes, the Chair was suggesting the applicant go back and regroup, pull all the things together, and come back with a complete presentation, so they did not risk being denied. Mr. Vanderver commented he did not know what else was needed because everything was in there that they were planning to do. Vice Chair Okun responded it wasn't really. Mr. Vanderver stated that was what he did not understand. Chair Schauer asked Ms. Harding what was missing. Ms. Harding responded the applicant was planning to do other site work—adding a pool, changing some of the site in back. The line drawing shown was a dilapidated building that would be condemned if she didn't know they were planning to make an improvement. Her department had to consider whether that building was put there legally or not, and it had to be removed because the structure was unsound, so if they were going to convert that building or building area into a laundry, that had to be considered. Mr. Vanderver advised that building had already been torn down, and was gone—it had been dilapidated. Ms. Harding asked how they could have torn it down without a demolition permit. Mr. Vanderver stated he thought Ms. Harding told him to take it down. Ms. Harding commented she did not think it was a possibility he could have Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5,2006 Meeting Minutes Page 5 thought that from anything she had said to him; he needed a demolition permit, and he knew that. In fact, that was why he was here. Ms. Harding advised the board that she was sorry, but she thought they were going to have to speak to the owner, that this gentleman was apparently a supervisor on the job, or whatever he was, but he was not an architect or engineer and had no skills in what he was doing right here. Ms. Rosner advised there could be some misunderstandings, but she believed Mr. Vanderver had thought he was doing the right thing—Mr. Vanderver commented of course he had. Ms. Rosner stated if there had been a misunderstanding they would get it taken care of; and requested that if this was not going to be approved tonight,that they be given a detailed list to help Mr. Vanderver get together every single thing the board needed so they could come back quickly, because they were running into season and would like to get opened. Chair Schauer advised they needed a landscaping plan, a sign plan, and a demolition permit to keep Ms. Harding happy for the building just taken down. Chair Schauer commented before going any further she wanted to ask the board about the colors—red, gray, and Navaho white. Board member Cook asked if the owner picked those colors, and both Ms. Rosner and Mr. Vanderver responded that he had. Vice Chair Okun stated he thought what needed to happen was Ms. Rosner needed to meet with the owner and tell him they were working with the existing footprint, which did not necessarily have to be—but if this project was allowed to go forward as a renovation, that worked in their favor. If the board had to look at this as a new use there was no way they would see this season. Ms. Rosner agreed. Vice Chair Okun commented that becoming contentious about it only made things worse. The board really did want to see that property and that facility improved, because it became an asset of the Village, and the applicant was going to get nowhere becoming contentious with this board. He realized they were passionate about it and their feet were to the fire because of the season, but if they did not strike an alliance with the staff, which was quite willing to help them facilitate this, it would go nowhere. Board member Cook clarified with the applicant this was intended basically as a fix-up on the outside, and they were going to redo the inside. Vice Chair Okun commented this could be reviewed as a renovation or it could be reviewed as a new use because they were changing a significant amount of the building percentagewise. Ms. Cook stated she did not see that. Vice Chair Okun stated the board did not want him to go there. Ms. Rosner advised what she believed had happened was Mr. Vanderver had relied upon an architect to help him who had not guided him properly. Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5,2006 Meeting Minutes Page 6 Board member Von Frank called attention to E-1, stating there was something there not shown anywhere else. Chair Schauer commented they could use palms for their sign logo. Mr. Vanderver responded they already had that done when they hired Baron Signs. Chair Schauer asked Mr. Vanderver and Ms. Rosner to meet with Ms. Harding and the property owner and the board could go from there. Vice Chair Okun stated Ms. Harding would supply them with a punch list of all the things that were needed. Ms. Rosner stated she thought that was where there had been confusion because Mr. Vanderver relied on an architect, and this was a big project, and Mr. Vanderver thought he was doing everything he needed to do. She stated she was speaking from the outside and had not seen the plans, but had just happened to come tonight. Vice Chair Okun advised it was fortunate she had come tonight. Board member Cook asked if the board was going to give the plans back. Vice Chair Okun stated the board was not going to deal with this until such time as the complete picture was developed by staff. Chair Schauer advised the board was going to table this, and all the site plans would be given back— the board was trying to save the applicant some money. Ms. Rosner requested the board's thoughts on the colors, so they could at least paint the outside because it looked pretty ghastly when one drove down U.S. One. Vice Chair Okun advised if they painted they might wind up ruining their paint job, depending upon the scope of activity. Ms. Rosner asked what their thoughts were. Board member Hood commented he did not know how the colors would be applied to the building. Board member Cook advised the gray would be on the background, Garrison red would be on the doors, and Navaho white on the trim. Board member Cook stated she would like to make a recommendation, commenting the color palette was a very fine palette but it was not a South Florida palette. Because the building was set down and back, one could say it really didn't matter because it could not be seen, but she thought a South Florida palette would be more appropriate. Board member Cook commented Garrison red was not a South Florida color. Vice Chair Okun stated they were basically working with an industrial palette and trying to craft an upscale feel; one of the things that would make the upscale feel was the landscaping, and often the landscaping could save any color scheme. Board member Cook asked what the roof was and was told it was shingles. She asked if it were gray or brown. Mr. Vanderver advised it was white. Chair Schauer commented they could not have a shingle roof. Board member Cook asked why. Ms. Rosner stated it was existing. Board member Cook r l commented they were not going to change the roof Ms. Harding stated this was not being represented properly they had applied for a metal roof and a metal roof was shown on the drawing. The existing shingle roof was not • Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5, 2006 Meeting Minutes Page 7 relevant, so they were talking about a new metal roof, and the color scheme had to somewhat flow with the buildings around it and with the area in general, so that needed to be considered. Ms. Harding advised what was being proposed here—and this was only from their conversations, not by the plan—was a new roof, new structures (trellis work) across the front, new windows, air conditioning, they had already tore down a building and now wanted to reconstruct a laundry room, they wanted to put in a new pool, and they wanted to do some other site work that was being considered, the current sign structure had not been approved or researched as to whether it was the quality required today for signs so buying a sign and sticking it on those two posts might not work, so all of that had to be part of the picture that was being considered. Vice Chair Okun asked if the site plan was essentially the same footprint. Ms. Harding responded the building was the footprint; the inside use was changing from single room occupancy to more of a weekly kind of rental with a kitchen, they were upgrading the bathrooms, adding air conditioning, adding new windows and storm shutters. Chair Schauer commented they must also be doing major electrical work. Ms. Harding advised this was a major job and as far as the building construction it was more than 50% of the work; both the value and the structure, so they now had to bring the existing building and the new building 100%to code. Chair Schauer suggested the applicant make an appointment to see Ms. Harding, and advised the board did not like the colors. Ms. Rosner asked about a cream color with a pretty green door and white accents. Vice Chair Okun stated that would be great. Ms. Rosner also suggested a gray metal roof. Board member Cook stated that sounded like a better color scheme for this area. Ms. Harding advised she needed to make a site inspection to see the surrounding buildings in order to make a judgment on the colors, but that would be close. Ms. Rosner stated she was just trying to get a feel for it because she had not seen any of what had been turned in—she had met with Ms. Harding and the architect awhile back and had just come tonight for moral support to help Mr. Vanderver. Vice Chair Okun indicated the property owner should stay involved. Ms. Rosner advised she understood what the board wanted for colors and would pass that along. Board member Cook stated she thought it would be more successful with a nicer color combination, because this was kind of an industrial color combination. Chair Schauer stated the board wanted the property owner to succeed. Ms. Rosner stated he was very anxious to get this going. Vice Chair Okun advised the owner was going to need an army to get it going in time. Chair Schauer collected the plans to give Ms. Harding, and asked that everybody sit down together and the board would go from there, and thanked the applicant for their cooperation. Ms. Rosner stated in defense of Mr. Vanderver, he had been working with an architect and taking direction from him, and if he had had any inkling he needed other documents, especially a landscape plan, he would have had it, because he had been working really hard on this. Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5,2006 Meeting Minutes Page 8 MOTION: Vice Chair Okun made a motion to table the application for Tequesta Palms Inn for the property at 220 U.S. Highway One, Tequesta, Florida. Board member Von Frank seconded the motion,which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. Chair Schauer clarified for the Village Clerk that the motion to table was not for a time specific. V. COMMUNICATIONS FROM CITIZENS Marie Rosner, from the Inlet Colony, stated as far as the Keyes Real Estate Sign, that she was in real estate but that was not why she was making this comment. She stated she thought if Keyes were across the top it would look very tacky. Everyone was trying very hard to keep •a certain standard within that area and Tequesta Palms Inn was actually to the north of the property, and she thought it would be like having neon lights out there. VI. ANY OTHER MATTERS Chair Schauer stated there was a board member that never attended, and that needed to be addressed by the Village Council. Community Development Director Harding asked if the board wanted to have another board member appointed. Chair Schauer stated that would be nice. Board member Cook expressed her opinion the board members represented different parts of the Village, which she thought was important, and suggested asking the board member to find a substitute. Village Clerk Carlisle advised that Board member Carl Blasé was from the same area, Beach Road, and the Village Council had agreed that Carl Blasé could serve while he was here six months of the year. When Charles Reinwald came up before Village Council, they made him the permanent board member because Mr. Blasé was only here six months so hopefully there would be representation from Beach Road for the full year. Mr. Reinwald had said he would be here year round, but that had not been the case • because he was usually gone. She had spoken to him after he had missed about three meetings, and told him that generally after missing three meetings the Council was looking to replace somebody, and asked if he was really interested in serving. His response had been oh, yes, I'll be at the next meeting. She had talked to him again after that meeting and got the said response that he would be at the next meeting, but he never showed up and he never called to say he was not able to come. Chair Schauer suggested making Mr. Blasé the permanent member because when he was in town he always came, and she preferred to have him sitting on the board—it was nothing against Mr. Von Frank, but she felt the situation must be addressed. Board member Cook commented it had to be a Beach Road resident. Chair Schauer asked the Village Clerk and Ms. Harding to bring that to the Village Council. Ms. Harding suggested the board write a letter Planning and Zoning Advisory Board October 5, 2006 Meeting Minutes Page 9 to the Village Council stating Mr. Reinwald was not attending. Discussion ensued. Board member Cook asked that the letter include the information that the board member needed to be from Beach Road. Chair Schauer commented it might be November before she wrote the letter as she was very busy with an annual meeting, and she would get together with Ms. Carlisle about writing the letter. VII. 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