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VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA
SPECIAL VILLAGE COUNCIL
MEETING MINUTES
JULY 19, 2000
I . CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The Tequesta Village Council held a special meeting at the
Village Hall, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida, on
Wednesday, July 19, 2000. The meeting was called to order
at 11 : 03 A.M. by Mayor Joseph N. Capretta. A roll call was
taken by Betty Laur, Recording Secretary. Councilmembers
present were: Mayor Joseph N. Capretta, Vice Mayor
Elizabeth A. Schauer, Councilmember Basil E. Dalack,
Councilmember Geraldine Genco, and Councilmember Sharon
Walker. Also in attendance was Acting Village Manager and
Village Clerk Joann Manganiello.
II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Acting Village Manager and Village Clerk Joann Manganiello
announced that the time of the meeting on the Agenda should
be corrected to 11 A.M.
Vice Mayor Schauer made a motion to approve the Agenda as
submitted. Councilmember Walker seconded the motion. The
vote on the motion was:
Joseph N. Capretta - for
Elizabeth A. Schauer - for
Basil E. Dalack - for
Geraldine Genco - for
Sharon Walker - for
The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the Agenda
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was approved as submitted.
III. COMMUNICATION FROM CITIZENS
There were no communications from citizens.
IV. VILLAGE MANAGER CANDIDATE INTERVIEWS
Mayor Capretta announced that there had been three
interviews scheduled and his plan had been that at the end
of the interviews he would ask the Village Councilmembers
to vote their first, second, and third choices to see if
there was a consensus for any one candidate. Candidate
Greg Dunham had withdrawn the previous day, leaving only
two, and in an effort to have three candidates, Acting
Assistant Village Manager Richard Diamond had been asked
if he would consider becoming an applicant for the
position. Mr. Diamond had discussed the matter with his
wife and decided not to apply, since he wanted to be an
assistant manager. Mayor Capretta commented that most of
the candidates had been from outside the State of Florida.
The Mayor announced that after the interviews had been
completed he would ask the Councilmembers to vote for the
candidate they would be willing to support for Village
Manager. The votes would be tallied by Acting Village
Manager Manganiello to see if there was a consensus . It
was noted that a consensus for one candidate did not mean
the other was second choice. At least four votes were
necessary in favor of one person to offer that person the
position, and there was the possibility that the chosen
candidate would decline the position. Discussion ensued.
Councilmember Dalack indicated he would like to interview
every candidate with one vote in the State of Florida. The
possible expense for airfare and hotels was discussed.
Mayor Capretta announced the procedure to be followed at
the interviews for this meeting: Each Village
Councilmember would have ten minutes to ask questions, and
after everyone had had an opportunity to question the
candidate, each Village Councilmember would be given two
more minutes . At the conclusion of the second round of
questioning, members of the public would be asked to submit
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questions to Mayor Capretta, who would ask those questions.
Candidate Susan Boyer was interviewed beginning at 11 : 15
a.m. Councilmember Genco asked why Ms. Boyer had left her
employment with the town of Lady Lake, Florida. Ms. Boyer
responded there had been differences and it was a parting
of the ways. Councilmember Genco questioned whether Ms .
Boyer had done any research on the Village. Ms. Boyer
responded yes, that she had spoken to Tom Bradford, and
felt the Village' s strongest points were its financial
condition, which was extremely solid. Ms. Boyer stated that
the Village had made very wise financial moves in
anticipation of moving forward to build new facilities, and
although almost built out had managed to maintain the
Village' s identity. Councilmember Genco commented that the
Village had a Village Manager form of government with
experienced staff people and asked how much interaction Ms.
Boyer thought the staff should have, to which the response
was that Ms. Boyer felt department heads needed a lot of
interaction with the Manager; that they knew their jobs and
were the experts, but she would be the one reporting to the
Village Council, and the staff should run day to day
operations but include her in the loop with policy
decisions. Councilmember Genco asked how much leeway staff
should have in making their own budgets. Ms. Boyer stated
staff should be given parameters, present their budgets to
her which she would discuss with them to prioritize the
items and she would hope to bring a balanced budget
reflecting immediate needs to the Village Council, who
could make changes . Ms. Boyer stated a lot of interaction
was needed to come up with a proposed budget. Councilmember
Genco questioned what criteria Ms . Boyer would use to
assess the performance of her staff. Ms. Boyer responded
that she would let people begin with a self-analysis,
listing their goals and objectives for the year. She
would look at that with them, finalize the goals and
objectives, and at the end of the year review them to see
if they had accomplished the goals and objectives and if
not, to discuss the reasons. Councilmember Genco commented
that over the period of a year or two there might be a time
when the Village Council focused on doing something that
she did not agree with, and asked how she would handle that
situation. Ms . Boyer responded that although she and the
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Village Council would not always agree, it was important
to be able to express her opinion as to why she thought it
was a wrong decision, but that she would carry out the
Village Council' s decisions . Councilmember Genco asked
what the most difficult personnel problem had been that Ms .
Boyer had had to deal with, to which Ms. Boyer responded
that the Police Department in another community had been
under investigation when she was hired, the Police Chief
was married to the town accountant and the Mayor was his
father-in-law, the person in charge of the evidence room
was the daughter-in-law of the another commissioner, and
she had demoted people and had done what needed to be done.
Councilmember Dalack questioned whether Ms. Boyer was a
Florida native. Ms. Boyer explained she had lived here
since 1976, that her father had been in the air force and
they had lived all over, and he had retired to West Palm
Beach. Councilmember Dalack asked where Ms. Boyer had
attended school before Gainesville. Ms . Boyer responded
she had gone to high school at Forest Hill High School in
West Palm Beach, and that she and her family had lived all
over the United States and in Europe. Councilmember Dalack
asked if it was Ms. Boyer or Miss Boyer-she responded she
was married but used her maiden name. Councilmember Dalack
questioned whether she had children, to which the answer
was no. Councilmember Dalack stated he was interested in
the human being, and asked if Ms. Boyer read and her
favorite author. Ms. Boyer responded she was currently
reading works by Carl Hiaason, and some of John Grisham' s
mysteries which made you think when you read them.
Councilmember Dalack asked if Ms . Boyer spoke any foreign
languages . Ms. Boyer responded she used to speak Italian
fluently. Councilmember Dalack asked whether Ms. Boyer' s
father was an enlisted man or an officer. Ms. Boyer
responded he was an officer with 20+ years. Councilmember
Dalack asked whether Ms . Boyer had an attitude regarding
government subsidy of private enterprise, using public
funds to support an individual who was doing a project to
make money; for instance, the stadium in Tampa which had
been built with public funds to further a private money-
making project. Ms. Boyer expressed her opinion that each
such case would have to be considered individually to see
what it would do for the community, the long-term-effects,
and the return to the local government. Depending on the
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return and results for the community would have a large
impact, as well as how long the public funds were
committed. Councilmember Dalack asked whether Ms. Boyer
would have agreed with the Tampa stadium, to which she
responded that had been an extremely complicated issue for
them and it was probably the right thing for them to do
because of the area of town they were trying to revitalize,
and the money it brought in and the jobs it created fit
into their economic development plan.
Vice Mayor Schauer questioned Ms. Boyer' s expertise in
obtaining grants. Ms. Boyer stated she had written a number
of grants and assisted staff in completing their grants
especially in Port Orange, and also in Avon Park, and to
a minimal degree in Lady Lake. Ms . Boyer stated there were
grants for almost anything if you looked for them, but
while grants could be found, consideration must be given
to the strings attached such of what kind of matching grant
it was, how much money would the Village have to front,
whether only Village dollars could be used in the match or
if private business dollars could be used as well, the
length of the commitment, etc. Ms. Boyer advised there
were also grants that could be done in multiple parts or
that the Village might do in conjunction with a neighboring
community, such as a highway beautification grant . Ms .
Boyer stated she had had a lot of grant experience with
historic preservation, highway beautification, and
recreation grants. Vice Mayor Schauer questioned what Ms.
'Boyer' s first main objective would be to improve the
Village if she were hired to be the Village Manager. Ms.
Boyer responded before she could answer that she would have
to get to know the Village Council and the employees and
to see where the Village stood on various issues, and then
make a decision what should be done first. Vice Mayor
Schauer questioned Ms. Boyer' s computer and website
experience. Ms. Boyer explained she had working knowledge
of computers and the Word and Excel programs, and had never
created a website herself, believing it was easier to hire
someone to create a website. Vice Mayor Schauer asked what
budget problems Ms. Boyer had encountered in the past. Ms .
Boyer reported that Avon Park had been broke and capped out
at their millage rate, and she had brought them back from
the edge by using a lot of grants. Ms. Boyer explained
that in such a situation a lot of things should be looked
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at, and that most communities wanted to have a 20% reserve
but most never achieved 20%; however, the Village had 23% .
Vice Mayor Schauer questioned Ms . Boyer' s best
accomplishment in city government Ms. Boyer reported that
she was very proud of a recreation program and a recreation
complex which had been started in Avon Park, which were
still going on. Vice Mayor Schauer questioned what could
be done for teens in recreation. Ms. Boyer stated teens
were the most difficult group for which to provide
activities and since she did not know what was currently
available it would be very hard to answer that question.
Vice Mayor Schauer questioned how Ms. Boyer would handle
personnel conflicts. Ms. Boyer expressed her opinion that
everyone deserved a chance to correct problems, that she
would sit down with the employee and find out what the
problem was, make sure they understood their job and
understood the expectations, and give them a chance to
resolve the problem. After a period of time she would
again meet with the employee and if some things were
improving, to continue working on the problem; however, if
there was no improvement then she would make a decision.
Vice Mayor Schauer asked why Ms. Boyer applied for this
job. Ms . Boyer explained that she was being selective in
applying and she was looking for a small, stable community
that would provide her with opportunity. Ms . Boyer stated
she wanted to stay in Florida since her parents lived in
West Palm Beach, and noted that Tequesta was a financially
stable community and its management had been stable. Vice
Mayor Schauer questioned the manager' s level of involvement
in the Village' s aggressive capital improvement program.
Ms . Boyer responded that the Village Manager should be on
top of the projects and know their status and whether they
were over or under budget. The Village Manager should
bring any problems to the Village Council. The Vice Mayor
questioned Ms. Boyer' s feelings regarding the Village
Council taking surveys of the residents, for example, a
citizen satisfaction survey. Ms . Boyer responded one must
be very careful because the way questions were worded could
influence the answers, and someone with an objective
viewpoint should help word the questions. Ms. Boyer
described her experience in conducting a survey in Palm
Beach when they were looking at service issues . Ms . Boyer
commented that a survey could have merit and would let the
Village know whether they were providing the services the
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community wanted. Vice Mayor Schauer asked whether Ms.
Boyer had any experience with reverse osmosis, to which the
response was negative. The Vice Mayor questioned Ms.
Boyer' s experience with labor unions and in negotiating
labor contracts. Ms. Boyer explained that she had always
worked with police and fire unions, and that in Port Orange
and in Avon Park there had also been general employee
unions . Ms. Boyer commented she had always been very
careful during negotiations since it was not always easy
to get what you wanted, but she understood the pros and
cons. Vice Mayor Schauer asked whether Ms. Boyer would be
willing to sit down with a union representative and an
employee who had made a complaint to discuss the matter,
to which Ms. Boyer responded she would if it was allowed
under the union contract, and commented that unions
sometimes tried to get around their contract, but if they
had signed it she would hold them to it.
Councilmember Walker questioned how the budget in Avon Park
had been reversed. Ms . Boyer explained that capital
projects had to be analyzed to see what needs were
immediate and whether the right people were in each job.
A complete look at the way they were doing government had
been done. Councilmember Walker asked how morale had been
maintained during the reorganization of the police
department. Ms . Boyer responded that the other departments
avoided the police department and there was a morale
problem in the police department. The Chief resigned and
then it was necessary to fill the position with the right
kind of person. It had taken eight months to find the new
Chief, who had turned the department around in 10-11
months . Based on the successful work he had done there,
the Chief had just accepted a position in a larger
community. Ms. Boyer indicated that things became much
more strict under the new Chief. Councilmember Walker
questioned Ms . Boyer' s management style, to which Ms . Boyer
responded she was a people person, that the manager should
be accessible to the Village Council, employees, and
citizens, stressed the importance of returning phone calls,
and making appointments with citizens or employees; but
stated that rules are rules and employees needed to go
through the chain of command if they had a complaint . Ms .
Boyer stated department heads were hired because they were
good at their jobs and needed free rein and creativity to
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have learned that some residents believed the Village was
in debt and not managing well financially, and that
communication was the issue. One of the primary
communication tools of the Village was the newsletter in
which the Village communicated what it was doing and why
it was doing it, and trying to make sure the public
understood. Ms . Boyer responded that a newsletter was a
good avenue of communication, and suggested using the
Chamber of Commerce, local groups such as the Rotary and
Kiwanis clubs, as well as homeowners associations to get
the word out. Ms . Boyer suggested that the Village Manager
should go to these groups and tell them what was going on,
possibly accompanied by a Village Councilmember and a staff
member to answer questions . Ms. Boyer commented that local
newspapers sometimes only printed negative items, and
suggested working with the newspaper. Ms. Boyer suggested
providing updates at meetings and that the Village Manager
be available and keep the Village Council informed. Mayor
Capretta asked if Ms . Boyer was aware of any governmental
agencies utilizing the internet. Ms. Boyer responded that
Martin County used the internet, and that many towns posted
their minutes or other documents so that the people could
read them. Many also provided e-mail directly to the
Village Manager' s office. Mayor Capretta advised that if
Ms. Boyer accepted this position she would find that the
Village was changing, and that in the last year ten years
the population had increased only 10%, the number of
children had increased 50%, the number of residents between
ages 30-44 had increased by 75%, and the number of senior
citizens had decreased by 10%. The Mayor commented that
the older people did not want change, while younger and
growing people wanted change and parks for activities, and
asked how Ms. Boyer would resolve differences. Ms. Boyer
commented recreation needs changed with the changing
demographics and recommended looking at what both young and
old wanted. Needs could include both Little League and
tennis or shuffleboard. Ms . Boyer advised that balance was
hard to achieve, and that the Village Manager must go out,
speak to the people, and listen. Mayor Capretta noted that
Tom Bradford was the Village Manager for 14 years and had
been very good at getting things done on schedule,
providing budgets, etc. , but that communicating with the
people and perhaps morale could have been his weaknesses;
however, because the Village had been financially strapped,
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in order not to raise taxes Mr. Bradford had had to
maintain staff as the work load increased, which was the
cause of the underlying morale problem. Mayor Capretta
advised that the Village was now in good financial shape,
and asked how Ms. Boyer would resolve that problem. Ms .
Boyer questioned whether employees were asked to do more
with inferior equipment, so that equipment could be
improved. Another suggestion could be a change in the
benefits package if it were not equal to that of other
towns Re-evaluating positions to see if the right people
were being asked to do certain jobs was a possibility. Ms .
Boyer advised it would take time, but re-evaluation could
be done department by department. Mayor Capretta
questioned whether the differences in managing which caused
Ms. Boyer to leave her last position were still a problem.
Ms. Boyer responded that The Villages had controlled four
of the five Commission seats and although she did not
always make the developer happy, she did not back down
because the rules applied to everyone.
Councilmember Genco stressed the importance of
communication in a small village and asked how Ms . Boyer
would have handled communication with a budget of $30
million and a $10 million project . Ms. Boyer recommended
the Village' s newsletter and if the project was in a
specific area to involve the homeowners associations or
groups in that area Ms . Boyer suggested taking advantage
of the business community, and any other available avenues,
such as trying to get the newspaper to run a story by going
to them and telling them about the great project and giving
them information. Councilmember Genco questioned how to
explain to citizens ahead of time the impact to their
pockets, to which Ms. Boyer responded it must be conveyed
that the Village was spending a lot but explain what the
return would be, and the key was to find things people
related to and understood, looking for the silver liming,
and expressing the benefits even though it might be some
time before those benefits were realized. Councilmember
Genco commented the residents could see the benefits but
were concerned about the financial aspects . Ms. Boyer
suggested looking at the project, keep long-term debt to
a minimum, and pay for project as they went along, which
she believed the Village had done after reviewing their
budget. Ms . Boyer recommended making the residents aware
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of these strategies, beginning to educate them, and
communicate that even though debt would be incurred for the
project, that the Village was trying to mitigate the amount
of debt they would incur.
Councilmember Dalack questioned whether Ms. Boyer would
provide information before a project was entered into or
after. Ms. Boyer responded it depended on the project;
that it made it easier if support was obtained ahead of
time, and it might need to be the subject of a workshop or
placed in the newsletter; however, sometimes decisions must
be made that were not popular and the community as a whole
might not understand but the Village might have to move
forward. Ms . Boyer recommended trying to do it up front,
but stated that did not always work. Councilmember Dalack
questioned who in public life today Ms. Boyer admired, to
which she responded anyone willing to be a City Manager
today. Councilmember Dalack asked if there was anyone she
did not particularly like, to which Ms. Boyer responded no
one came to mind immediately.
Vice Mayor Schauer commented she was looking at a
skateboard park and getting grants for that for teens; and
Ms. Boyer had alerted her to the fact that Tequesta had no
shuffleboard courts in their parks . The Vice Mayor
commented the Village had recently hired a firm to help
obtain grants and asked if Ms. Boyer had ever worked with
such a firm, to which the response was those firms could
do very well and generally had a good success rate. Vice
Mayor Schauer asked if Ms . Boyer had had success in getting
different age groups to use the same facilities. Ms. Boyer
responded yes, because the different groups did not use the
facilities at the same time.
Councilmember Walker questioned the successfulness of the
municipal complex and conversion of the old town hall into
a library in Lady Lake. Ms. Boyer explained that the Town
Hall had been a very complicated issue and very difficult
The library was a very different scenario and had been
started while she was there, and a State grant had been
obtained. The librarian had been involved, and the project
had been workshopped several times, and the project had
been completed on time and was a success for the community.
Ms. Boyer indicated it would not be a problem for her and
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her husband to move to Tequesta.
Mayor Capretta read aloud questions from the audience. Mr.
Giba asked the direction the Village should take in the
future and what would she do to gain the confidence and
trust of the staff if she were hired. Ms. Boyer responded
that the manager needed to have honesty and integrity and
treat everyone fairly, and respect would come in time. Mr.
Boyer was asked her husband's occupation. She explained
that he was retired from the Air Force and would relocate
with her so long as he could play softball . Another
question from the audience involved the relationship
envisioned with the Chamber of Commerce. Ms. Boyer
explained that the Chamber of Commerce could be an ally and
that the Village should work with the Chamber to continue
economic development.
Councilmember Genco made a motion to adjourn the meeting
and to reconvene at 1:45 p.m. Motion was seconded by Vice
Mayor Schauer. The vote on the motion was:
Joseph N. Capretta - for
Elizabeth A. Schauer - for
Basil E. Dalack - for
Geraldine Genco - for
Sharon Walker - for
The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the meeting
was adjourned at 12:28 p.m.
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting reconvened and was called to order at 2: 00 p.m.
by Mayor Joseph Capretta. A roll call was taken by Betty
Laur, Recording Secretary. Councilmembers present were:
Mayor Joseph N. Capretta, Vice Mayor Elizabeth A. Schauer,
Councilmember Basil E. Dalack, Councilmember Geraldine
Genco, and Councilmember Sharon Walker. Also in attendance
was Acting Village Manager and Village Clerk Joann
Manganiello.
II . Vice Mayor Schauer made a motion to approve the Agenda as
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submitted. Councilmember Walker seconded the motion. The
vote on the motion was:
Joseph N. Capretta - for
Elizabeth A. Schauer - for
Basil E. Dalack - for
Geraldine Genco - for
Sharon Walker - for
The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the Agenda
was approved as submitted.
III. COMMUNICATION FROM CITIZENS
There were no communications from citizens.
IV. VILLAGE MANAGER CANDIDATE INTERVIEWS
Mayor Capretta noted that there was no one present in the
audience that had not been in the morning session, and
reviewed the interview process for the benefit of the
candidate, Michael R. Couzzo, Jr.
Councilmember Genco noted that Mr. Couzzo was not currently
working in a municipal capacity, to which Mr. Couzzo
responded that he had felt it was time in his career to
take a short sabbatical from public life and had the
opportunity to go into a private enterprise, which also
gave him some time to spend with his children.
Councilmember Genco asked if he had learned anything
working in the private sector that would transfer to a
governmental position. Mr. Couzzo responded that there was
always an interesting balance between the two, and he now
had a greater appreciation of small business needs.
Councilmember Genco inquired regarding Mr. Couzzo' s
investigation of the Village, which he explained he had
taken a ride through the Village with his family and had
been provided with copies of the budget, auditor' s report,
and the Village Council' s goals and objectives. Mr. Couzzo
noted that those goals and objectives were very similar to
projects he had undertaken while employed by the Village
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of Miami Shores and the City of Tamarac. Mr. Couzzo
reported they had to build a new police facility and
convince the community of the need to do that, during an
approximate 16-month period. Councilmember Genco
questioned how Mr. Couzzo would involve the staff in
management and what kind of interaction would he allow
staff to have with the public and with the Village Council.
Mr. Couzzo responded that his policy was to find the best
people for the job and to give them a lot of latitude to
do their jobs, and that he considered the entire work force
a team. Mr. Couzzo advised that he had found some of the
most unique and creative ideas came from line personnel .
Councilmember Genco questioned whether Mr. Couzzo was in
favor of delegating some of his responsibilities to staff
to attend meetings, etc. Mr. Couzzo responded that based
upon the premise that staff members were all competent and
capable, he would delegate. Councilmember Genco questioned
how much latitude Mr. Couzzo believed staff should have in
managing their own budgets . Mr. Couzzo responded that they
should have complete latitude up to the point where it came
before the manager and to the Village Council and the
public for review. If not given latitude, personnel would
not be operating to their maximum talents, and
restructuring could be in order. Councilmember Genco
questioned what Mr. Couzzo' s most difficult personnel
problem had been. Mr. Couzzo explained that he had managed
a department with 165 employees, and the most difficult
situation had been a tenured employee supervising a field
trip to a county park where two children almost drowned
because of the employee' s neglect, and after extensive
investigation and dealings with the union, he had
terminated the employee. Councilmember Genco asked how Mr.
Couzzo would handle a situation in which the Village
Council was focused on an area and wanted Mr. Couzzo to do
something which Mr. Couzzo did not feel was the right thing
to do. Mr. Couzzo responded he would calmly review why it
was not to the benefit of the community at large with the
Councilmember, and usually was able to convince the
Councilmember to see his side. Councilmember Genco
explained that communication was one of the Village' s
biggest issues and asked what tools could be used in
informing the community. Mr. Couzzo responded that
communication with the general public was essential, and
that the more informed a community was would be to
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everyone' s benefit. Mr. Couzzo recommended publishing a
monthly newsletter, and explained that in the past he had
held an open forum in his office for one hour before each
Council meeting to provide backup on agenda items. Mr.
Couzzo stressed the importance of keeping staff informed,
since they were ambassadors of the community.
Councilmember Dalack inquired where Mr. Couzzo lived before
he came to Florida in 1979. Mr. Couzzo responded he grew
up on Long Island and went to high school in Greenmont, New
York, and had gone to an engineering school, New Jersey
Institute of Technology. Councilmember Dalack inquired
whether Mr. Couzzo had a favorite author. Mr. Couzzo
responded he that read finance books and was currently
reading a book by George Stanopolis . Regarding lines of
communication with the public and Village government,
Councilmember Dalack asked whether input from the public
would be sought before or after the Village proceeded with
a project that exceeded a million dollars. Mr. Couzzo
responded he would first like to review those things with
the Mayor and Village Council to learn their preference.
Mr. Couzzo reported that a previous community had had a
monthly Mayor/Manager Neighborhood Forum where he and the
Mayor went out into the community, normally in someone' s
front lawn, and discussed issues in which the community was
interested. Mr. Couzzo commented if the Mayor and Council
were supportive of involving the community, which his prior
community had been when they built their new Police
Station, they had brought the public in early in the
process, which was to their benefit, because informing the
community on things about which they were uncertain
resulted in the community spearheading the project.
Councilmember Dalack questioned Mr. Couzzo' s position on
the concept of using governmental funds to assist a private
money-making business such as the Tampa Stadium, which was
built with governmental funds for a sports entity. Mr.
Couzzo responded he was not thoroughly versed on the
Village' s finances, and that normally he did not subscribe
to that concept; and that in large communities after it was
thoroughly analyzed and planned out, some people believed
it was the way to go; however, Mr. Couzzo was not yet
convinced. Mr. Couzzo commented that communities
subsidizing private enterprises, especially sports
enterprises, raised questions in his mind, and noted this
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had been done in Miami . Councilmember Dalack asked whether
there was a public figure Mr. Couzzo particularly admired.
Mr. Couzzo responded he admired Bob Graham, and did not
mention anyone that he did not particularly admire.
Vice Mayor Schauer questioned whether Mr. Couzzo had
computer knowledge and website expertise. Mr. Couzzo
responded that when he was with the town of Miami Shores
the town had set up a website and he had recently obtained
a personal website, and that although he had not personally
set them up he was familiar with designing but not setting
up a site. Vice Mayor Schauer questioned why Mr. Couzzo
had applied for this position. Mr. Couzzo explained that
he had been away from a manager' s position for awhile and
found he was happier and more stimulated in this type of
environment, and he and his family wanted to stay in the
area. Vice Mayor Schauer asked Mr. Couzzo to expand on his
grant experience. Mr. Couzzo explained his experience in
obtaining grants for Miami Shores and that he felt grants
should be pursued. The Vice Mayor inquired regarding Mr.
Couzzo' s greatest accomplishment in the public sector. Mr.
Couzzo stated there were a number of accomplishments, but
one that stood out was being able to take a community like
Miami Shores that was stagnant or going backwards, and
reinstating it into one of the finest communities in Dade
County. Vice Mayor Schauer asked whether Mr. Couzzo was
comfortable working with the Village Council according to
the Village Charter, to which Mr. Couzzo responded it was
the same arrangement under which he had previously worked.
The Vice Mayor inquired regarding Mr. Couzzo' s on surveys.
Mr. Couzzo responded his experience had been that the
participation level in surveys was not what was needed,
since percentages tended to be relatively small, so that
it did not provide a good cross section of what the
community believed on any particular item. Mr. Couzzo
recommended going out and meeting with various groups as
a better alternative. The Vice Mayor asked what role the
Village Manager should play in accounting for and
monitoring capital projects that were in the budget and
what he would do if he believed insufficient funds had been
budgeted, to which Mr. Couzzo responded he would bring the
projects before the Village Council and show them where he
believed the amount budgeted was insufficient, and
commented that a real world scenario needed to be done
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before proceeding with a project to accommodate unforeseen
circumstances that could arise. Vice Mayor asked about Mr.
Couzzo' s experience with unions. Mr. Couzzo responded he
had dealt with police, fire, and public employees unions,
and had always felt it was his role to negotiate the
contracts . The Vice Mayor asked if Mr. Couzzo would be
willing to sit down with the union representative and an
employee who had filed a grievance, to which Mr. Couzzo
responded there were normally a set of procedures for this
situation set forth in the contract between the Village and
the union, and he believed that formal process should be
followed. Mr. Couzzo commented that if the situation could
be handled at the lower end of the managerial chain it
freed his time for more pressing matters, but he had no
aversion to handling the matter. The Vice Mayor asked
whether anything had not been covered on which Mr. Couzzo
would like to comment. Mr. Couzzo responded that he had
provided additional information to Acting Village Manager
Manganiello which highlighted his activities over the past
5-6 years, and also a budget book the Councilmembers might
want to look over. Mr. Couzzo commented he had always
taken to heart was the true trust the public bestows in a
Council and Manager and the accountability for their tax
dollars . Mr. Couzzo commented he believed the budget
process was constantly changing and a 365-day-a-year
process, trying to save. Mr. Couzzo stated that in the
Village' s budget he had noted a comment about maintaining
the standards, which he would have changed to the goal
being to improve the standards with the money available.
Councilmember Walker asked Mr. Couzzo to expand on the
statement in his resume regarding his skills in internal
training and incentive motivation. Mr. Couzzo stated he
tried to really instill in staff their responsibilities.
His expectations of them normally exceeded their abilities
but did not exceed where they were currently. Give them
a little more than they were doing to rise to, which was
similar to the process used by UPS. In Tamarac, a public
works employee who was cutting grass was given the
opportunity to apply himself and was currently the head of
the Public Works Department in Aventura. Mr. Couzzo
characterized his management style as a collaborative
style, and that listening to the people on his team,
evaluating the information they provided and utilizing it
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was extremely important. Councilmember Walker commented
Mr. Couzzo had reduced the Village General Fund budget by
$644, 000 while allowing for additional services and
personnel and did not increase the millage rate. Mr.
Couzzo explained that the Miami Shores millage rate was
high and rising near the cap when he joined them. Mr.
Couzzo commented that 60% to 70% of any public sector
budget consisted of personal services. Restructuring the
budget, especially by combining public works and
recreation, restructuring outstanding debt, as well as
numerous other items, could provide savings. Mr. Couzzo
commented that some of the things the Village thought they
could not afford to buy should be looked at as things they
could not afford not to buy, and every single line of the
budget should be extremely detailed and looked at to best
utilize the funds. State monies could also be obtained to
provide better services. Councilmember Walker asked
whether any of the Councilmembers had been "gun shy" about
the public forums, to which Mr. Couzzo responded it had
really been the Mayor' s forum but that no one had been gun
shy about participating, and the approach was open and
honest and informal, similar to a "fireside chat" format,
and had been successful . Councilmember Walker inquired
whether any members of Mr. Couzzo' s previous Councils had
had a newsletter to the residents beyond the municipal' s
newsletter, as a way to communicate. Mr. Couzzo' s
commented the Mayor had had a column in the municipal
newsletter and on a monthly basis each Councilmember on
a rotating basis was given a column to address the
residents regarding whatever they wanted, which had worked
very effectively. Councilmember Walker asked about Mr.
Couzzo' s negotiation skills and asked him to describe a
past situation where his mediation skills had been
successful . Mr. Couzzo commented police and firefighters
were very tough negotiators and the manager must have a
good working relationship with them, a real understanding
of their needs, and be able to accommodate those needs
within a workable financial format and have them understand
the financial format, how to negotiate, look at long-term
benefits, and not to kill the goose that lay the golden
eggs. Councilmember Walker noted the Village charter
required the manager to move to the Village within six
months . Mr. Couzzo advised he had not had a copy of the
charter and would have to talk to his wife and family about
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that .
Mayor Capretta commented the manager' s job involved
management (managing government, supervising staff,
accomplishing projects as instructed by the Village
Council) ; communication; and getting along the Village
Council, and asked whether Mr. Couzzo had any problems with
any of these items . Mr. Couzzo commented the last item,
getting along with the Village Council, was probably most
important, and he had worked with twenty village councils
and had had excellent working relationships, particularly
in Miami Shores, which was a small, family-oriented
community, and advised he had developed many friendships
over the years with various councilmembers, and still kept
in touch with the Mayor of Plantation although he had not
worked for him for 15 years. Mayor Capretta commented
there was a difference between the Council' s objectives and
the manager' s objectives and they needed not to be confused
in order to evaluate the manager properly, and that Mr.
Couzzo needed to be clear on what he was to accomplish and
what the Council was to accomplish. Mr. Couzzo responded
the only problem he had had in the past was not getting
clear objectives from the Council, and it was much easier
for a manager if the expectations were clearly delineated
annually. Mayor Capretta commented on the morale problem
within the Village which had been created by not raising
taxes to pay salary increases while adding to the work load
and had existed for several years; however, now that more
revenue was available the problem hopefully could be
resolved, and asked how Mr. Couzzo would handle this
situation. Mr. Couzzo responded that he had faced that
problem in the past and that employees who were excelling
and extremely productive should expect increases and
expressed his belief that governments needed to be run more
like businesses. Conversely, expenditures might be being
made to employees who should not receive them. Instilling
such a sense of public pride could result in employees
saying they did not want a certain employee on their crew
because that employee was not working effectively. Mayor
Capretta commented on the issue of communication, that only
a certain few people attended meetings regularly, and that
it was the manager' s job to communicate to the public.
Mayor Couzzo asked what Mr. Couzzo would do to improve
communications when a Council had undertaken projects which
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the public did not support since they did not understand
them. Mr. Couzzo responded that was probably why the
national average tenure for managers was 2 . 4 years, that
it was not a rarity to only have ten people at a meeting,
and that many communities were televising their meetings
on cable TV, which was effective and residents could call
the next day with questions. Mayor Capretta commented he
liked the idea of a meeting before the Village meeting and
of visiting the neighborhoods, which were new concepts to
improve communications . The Mayor commented outside issues
could bring up issues about which the public became
concerned, such as a newspaper article mentioning fluoride
in water causing him to get calls inquiring about whether
the Village had fluoride in their water, when no one had
ever mentioned it before. The Mayor explained that the
Village had grown only 1% in the past ten years; however,
the number of children had increased 50%, the number of
adults between ages 30 and 44 had increased 75%, and the
number of senior citizens had decreased 10%, so the Village
was changing from a retirement community. Mr. Couzzo
commented that Tamarac had been designed to a retirement
community but the majority of people in the town were
younger.
Vice Mayor Schauer questioned whether Mr Couzzo had any
reverse osmosis experience, to which he responded that in
Tamarac he had worked with reverse osmosis. Vice Mayor
Schauer commented the budget provided by Mr. Couzzo was
excellent and noted that budget had received the
Distinguished Budget Presentation Award. Mr. Couzzo
explained he had initiated the budget format, and that only
2% of the communities applying for the award received it,
however, Miami Shores received it three years in a row.
Mr. Couzzo commented he had worked with an extremely
competent Finance Director who did serious investigations
before making purchases . Mr. Couzzo commented he had been
unable to bring a copy of the budget synopsis which had
been given out to community residents, which had been very
successful . This was a pamphlet which was very user
friendly.
Councilmember Walker commented that she really liked the
sense of place of the neighborhood brochure which had been
provided by Mr . Couzzo, the concept of which he
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acknowledged that he had played a great part, and noted
that the brochure had been very successful. Mr. Couzzo
commented that he had been the catalyst to care for the
community, which once he had started it there had been
incredible support. People took great pride in their homes
and almost every street corner was decorated with plants
and flowers. Councilmember Walker asked about the Eagle
18 Golf Promotion, which Mr. Couzzo explained it was
interesting but not as intellectually challenging as he had
expected. Mr. Couzzo commented communities should provide
customer service to their constituents.
Councilmember Genco complimented Mr. Couzzo on the budget
document, which he explained was done in-house. Mr. Couzzo
explained that the Finance Director had been given latitude
to do her job and was very instrumental in this budget.
Councilmember Genco asked what criteria Mr. Couzzo applied
in assessing employee production. Mr. Couzzo explained
that it was important to set up goals and objectives which
was a contract with the employee that was constantly
monitored. Mr. Couzzo commented that employees were
encouraged to rise to a higher level through a sense of
duty rather than money. Mr. Couzzo was in favor of cross
training employees .
Mayor Capretta read aloud questions from the audience. Mr.
Couzzo was asked his feeling on low voter turnout, to which
he responded that was a nationwide epidemic and in Miami
Shores the turnout was up at first but then went down
because they felt things were going well. The value of
working with the Chamber of Commerce was another question
from the audience. Mr. Couzzo stated that working with the
Chamber could be a very effective tool to trumpet the cause
of the community and greatly help with communication.
Since there were no further questions, Mr. Couzzo left the
meeting at 3 : 08 p.m.
A vote was taken by secret ballot in which each
Councilmember stated their preference for either Ms Boyer
or Mr. Couzzo. A talley of the ballots was read aloud by
Acting Village Manager Manganiello. The vote was 5-0 for
Michael Couzzo. Mayor Capretta commented that the Village
Council must continue to go through the process by
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instructing Acting Village Manager Manganiello to check Mr.
Couzzo' s credentials, require him to take a physical
examination, and to prepare an offer, but expressed concern
that Mr. Couzzo had not known about the 6-month rule to
move to the Village, although since his daughter had just
left for college that might not be a problem.
Vice Mayor Schauer expressed her opinion that the process
of looking for other candidates did not need to continue.
Councilmember Genco commented that Mr. Couzzo seemed to
have the ability to provide the citizens with the level of
communication and knowledge everyone wanted. Vice Mayor
Schauer stated she liked the pamphlet budget summary idea
and that the budget had been very impressive. Councilmember
Genco commented Mr. Couzzo was wiling to delegate work
Councilmember Walker commented that the brochure was great.
V. ADJOURNMENT
Councilmember Genco moved that the meeting be adjourned.
Councilmember Dalack seconded the motion. The vote on the
motion was:
Joseph N. Capretta - for
Elizabeth A. Schauer - for
Basil E. Dalack - for
Geraldine Genco - for
Sharon Walker - for
The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the meeting
was adjourned at 3:21 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Betty Laur
Recording Secretary