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VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA
Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive
Tequesta, Florida 33469 -0273 • (407) 575 -6200
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I. The Public Safety Committee of the Tequesta Village Council
held a meeting on Thursday, April 6, 1989, in the Village
Hall Council Chambers, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta,
Florida, to discuss an action -plan relative to the Tequesta
Association of Voters and Taxpayers' (TAVT) Fire - Rescue
Report. The meeting was called to order at 9:40 A.M. by
Committee Chairman Joseph N. Capretta. Co- Chairman William
E. Burckart was also present. Village Officials present
were: Thomas G. Bradford, Village Manager; Carl R.
Roderick, Chief of Police; Stephen Allison, Lieutenant
Police Department; and Joann M. Manganiello, Administrative
Secretary. Mr. Joseph Yoder, President of the TAVT was also
in attendance.
2I. Committee Chairman Joseph N. Capretta stated that the
purpose of the meeting was to "follow -up" on TAVT's Fire -
Rescue Study; discuss an action -plan relative to the same;
and make recommendations to Council so that they, in turn,
may instruct Village Manager Bradford as to the appropriate
actions to be taken in the future.
Mr. Capretta emphasized the point in question; "Is a Public
Safety Department appropriate for Tequesta ?" He admitted
that the TAVT Report had merit, but felt that it could not
be accepted at "face value" without further investigation.
He stressed the importance of verifying facts, costs, and
financial impact. In this regard, Mr. Capretta noted that
Palm Beach County Fire Chief Brice:
1) told the Village that it was "getting a bargain"
($600,000 value for $376,000)
2) still had to build Station 12
3) had deliberately kept Tequesta's costs at a minimum
In light of these circumstances, Mr. Capretta anticipates a
substantial cost increase (perhaps 50% or more) for Tequesta
for 1990. Village Manager Bradford noted that Chief Brice
had given the Village preliminary figures. The County could
either borrow money or spread the cost over 2 -3 fiscal
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years, an option as the County goes into budget this
summer. Chairman Capretta also pointed out that the County
has a pay -as- you -go policy. It could amortize costs over
the first year, but can Tequesta be assured of a one -time
increase or "assume" an increase each year? A cost
projection is needed; when the figures are "in ", a
comparison of cost effectiveness can be made.
Mr. Capretta suggested hiring a consultant to "look into"
the following basic issues:
1) verification of facts
- especially critical statistics, such as, response
time
2) costs
- operation of a Public Safety Department
- comparison of maintaining Palm Beach County
Fire - Rescue Service
- projected costs
3) viability
- can police "adapt" to this Public Safety concept?
- "first- responders" with capabilities /implementation
in areas of Basic Life Support (BLS) and Fire
Suppression?
4) Public Safety Department - how would it operate?
- police as "first- responders" with BLS and Fire
Suppression?
- North County Ambulance back -up?
- a combination of police, fire, and paramedic?
5) What does it take to provide Tequesta with fire
protection?
Chairman Capretta's recommendation was to first, arrive at
an implementation plan approved by Council, and then, to
present the plan to the public for review and response,
perhaps in a referendum.
Co- Chairman Burckart suggested that the issue of Public
Safety be approached a little more simply. He noted that
the people he had spoken to did not have any problems with
creating a Public Safety Department. In general, older
citizens who agreed with the concept were not concerned with
costs; younger citizens, however, were.
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April 6, 1989
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Mr. Burckart questioned the need for a Public Safety
Department himself, and voiced concern that the basic
issues, as outlined by Mr. Capretta, be properly addressed.
He questioned:
1) Whether or not the police can "adapt" to this Public
Safety Concept? (and recommended Police Chief Roderick
"look into" the same)
2) Can police cars accommodate the necessary equipment?
3) Are new, modified cars needed to make equipment
accessible?
4) What effect will it have on the Village's insurance
rates?
5) Does the Village have a huge liability at stake if,
for example, an inaccurate diagnosis /treatment is
administered by police at the scene?
6) Do we involve the Water Company?
7) Do we use volunteers? (Mr. Bradford - good in
principle, not in actuality)
Essentially, Mr. Burckart agreed on hiring a consultant to
study the TAVT Report, assimilate it, and determine a plan
of action. He felt that this "plan of action" must be
coordinated with Chief Roderick and was concerned with the
possibility of his losing policemen due to the extra
responsibilities imposed on them.
Chairman Capretta noted that at the last Public Safety
Committee Meeting, Mr. Yoder brought up some very important
points regarding response time. He asked:
1) Could police be given additional training?
2) Do we change policemen's protocol; what actions to
take when first to arrive at the scene?
Mr. Capretta made the following recommendations as regards
these points:
1) Strive for 1.5 minute response time
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2) Give police additional training - BLS, Fire - Rescue
3) Provide necessary equipment for police
4) Establish proper protocol - "first- responder"
\; 5) Enable police to "save a life" until paramedics arrive
(possibility of continued use of Palm Beach County
Ambulance and Fire Rescue)
Ideally, the above referenced "plan of action" could be used
as a "First Phase." In actuality, according to Chief
Roderick's "First Aid /CPR Policy Report (see attachment),
Tequesta Police are practically doing this now. Mr.
c Capretta emphasized that improvement of "first- responder"
service to the public by the police be top priority,
regardless as to whether or not Tequesta goes with the
Public Safety Concept. He noted that it would certainly
help to improve the image of the police as "life- savers."
Mr. Capretta. did agree, however, with Mr. Burckart on the
problem of liability and advised a short -term investigation
of the risk factor be undertaken. Mr. Burckart reiterated
the need for additional Basic Life Support training and
emphasized that police must feel confident to go into a
situation and take action. Chief Roderick noted that police
action depends on the particular situation. Tequesta Police
are certified to administer CPR and stop bleeding (First
�\ Aid.) The next "step -up" for the policemen is EMT
______- (Emergency Medical Technician), at which point it would be
necessary_to_provide_ defibrillators in police cars —A
Village Manager Bradford noted that at police training
school, police receive BLS training. He asked if they
received fire - extinguisher training? Chief Roderick said,
"No," although extinguishers are carried in standard police
cars. Manager Bradford also noted that Greenacres City's
police (in standard police cars) have BLS and ALS (Advanced
Life Support) training. It also has an officer in a
modified pick -up truck which holds 300 gallons of heavy
water with a pumper to extinguish small fires.
Additionally, Greenacres City has large fire apparatus at a
particular location, as well as ambulance /rescue service to
transport people to the hospital. Mr. Capretta stated that
Greenacres City may be an appropriate "comparison town" to
Tequesta; "we fit the picture like a glove." He wanted to
"see" a Public Safety Department in operation first -hand.
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Mr. Burckart suggested North Palm Beach as a good place to
observe because it was smaller than Greenacres City.
Mr. Yoder observed that Public Safety is a unique thing, one
that "looks at" a particular village and uses police, fire
protection, and paramedics as building blocks. He suggested
that the Public Safety Concept be "tailor- made" to meet the
needs of Tequesta citizens and recommended that we:
1) look at our particular environment /needs
2) hire a consultant to investigate proper police
protocol
3) decide feasibility of defibrillators in police cars as
part of the Fire - Rescue Unit
He pointed out that as long as the police are doing
"something" (even administering oxygen), it gives the person
"peace of mind" which is very important psychologically.
Mr. Yoder liked Mr. Capretta's idea of a "First Phase" and
expressed the hope that it would materialize very quickly.
Its advantage being that citizens will be happy to know they
can depend on Tequesta Police as "first- responders." He
also noted that even though we're not paying police to put
out fires, they do have extinguishers in their cars and
should have the knowledge of how and when to use them
effectively.
Mr. Yoder placed "data gathering" as another important
factor. He noted that the TAVT Fire - Rescue Study did not
get into "analysis" of response time, but only gathered
information as to response time from surrounding areas. He
presented a Palm Beach County Fire - Rescue Daily Data Sheet
(see attachment) which logged all 911 emergency calls. He
pointed out that the information supplied was
incomplete /insufficient for data gathering and analysis - an
antiquated system. Mr. Capretta noted that Fire Chief Brice
realized the inadequacies in Palm Beach County's services,
data system, and response time and intends to improve it,
but when? According to Mr. Yoder, data in the TAVT Report
is broken down into government entities. He would like to
know what our response time is for our Village and the
unincorporated areas? (a possible "plus" for reasons of
annexation.) If we can gather this basic data, and know
what we're involved in, we can:
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1) determine actual response time
2) gauge what manpower is needed
3) anticipate what our demands will be
In effect, we need data to use to manage our operation. He
pointed out that a consultant is not needed to gather this
data; dispatchers at police departments keep logs /reports.
According to Chief Roderick, response time of 1.5 minutes is
accurate pursuant to accident reports. He confirmed that
reports are kept on every call that is dispatched and that
fire rescues come under "fire assists."
Village Manager Bradford asked Chief Roderick to explain
dispatch procedure. Chief Roderick explained, for example,
in the case of a heart attack 911, call is transferred to
EMS and they, in turn, dispatch Fire- Rescue (a 3 -way
conversation.) Next, the dispatcher enters the 911 call and
time in the phone log (arrival time) and also in the
dispatch log (clearing -scene time.) Data - type of call,
date and time - is typed into a computer which calculates
response time. Relative to this, Mr. Capretta called
attention to the fact that the dispatcher needs proper
training to handle the information coming in (911 emergency)
over the phone so that he /she can decide what vehicle to
dispatch to the scene. Mr. Bradford asked Chief Roderick
whether he could tell how many Fire - Rescue calls were
received from January 1, 1989? Lieutenant Allison responded
that they not only had that information, but also knew the
log time between Tequesta Police arrival on the scene and
the arrival of the Palm Beach County Fire - Rescue Unit, as of
January 1, 1989. Assuming that Tequesta Police respond to
every call, Mr. Burckart noted that we could easily compare
our response time to that of Palm Beach County.
Village Manager Bradford emphasized two important issues:
1) short -term issue - Should Tequesta get into Basic Life
Support or not?
2) long -term issue - Should the Village hire a
consultant?
As regards the short -term issue, Police Chief Roderick was
requested to prepare a report within 30 days, addressed to
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April 6, 1989
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the Village Manager, regarding the implementation of
procedures by Tequesta Police as "first- responders" in the
areas of Basic Life Support and Fire Suppression. Village
Manager Bradford would then disseminate said report to
Public Safety Committee Members /Village Council for review.
In summary, Chairman Capretta broke -down the Public Safety
Concept for Tequesta into 3 Phases, as follows:
PHASE I
1) First - Response
a) What are the capabilities of Tequesta Police?
(BSL /Fire Suppression)
b) What does it take to implement it?
c) If viable, do it.
* Under the direction of Police Chief Roderick.
2) Consultant - Hire one to:
a) verify facts in TAVT Report
b) estimate costs - insurance liability, equipment,
costs of operating a Public Safety Department,
maintaining Palm Beach County Fire - Rescue/
North County Ambulance, projected costs, etc.
c) determine viability of Tequesta Police adapting
to the Public Safety Concept
d) determine feasibility of Public Safety Department
- future involvement with Palm Beach County?
- buy support from North County Ambulance?
- link up with them?
- (At this time, Fire Chief Brice wants Tequesta
to remain part of the Palm Beach County Fire -
Rescue Service.)
If, after investigation, the consultant concludes that the
Public Safety Concept is feasible, viable, and cost
effective for Tequesta, then Council would decide whether to
1) make the decision on the issue themselves, or 2) put it
to a referendum vote (a definite need for commitment from
Tequesta citizens.)
* See attached sheet for listing of consultant questions.
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April 6, 1989
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PHASE II
Feasibility
a) Is data presented by the consultant adequate for
Council to base their decision on?
PHASE III
Consultant /Implementation of Plan
As the Public Safety Concept discussion neared conclusion,
Mr. Capretta advised that before hiring a consultant,
Council should ensure that they are asking the "right"
questions so that the consultant can provide Council with
the "right" information. He asked that the minutes of this
meeting be edited and sent to him and Co- Chairman Burckart
for first review. He also indicated the possibility of a
long process between Phase II and Phase III. Chairman
Capretta stated that he wanted the job done and done right.
He would prefer to see Public Safety as a whole, complete
system for Tequesta, excluding Palm Beach County Fire - Rescue
and North County Ambulance. Mr. Bradford agreed, stating
that he was tired of Tequesta's budget being dictated by
Palm Beach County.
Village Manager Bradford cautioned that Council make sure
they have the consultant's input before going to referendum.
He was also concerned with the timing involved. He assumed
that the consultant would want at least 6 months for
investigation of data. Mr. Bradford noted that if Tequesta
wants out of the Palm Beach County Fire- Rescue System, we
must tell them so by April 1, 1990. Consequently, a
consultant must be hired as soon as possible. Council
cannot wait for October 1, 1989, the new fiscal year, to
budget for a consultant. Village Manager Bradford also
suggested that the Village could hold a referendum on the
first Tuesday in March, 1990. Time -wise, Council would have
a time lag between then and April 1, to notify Palm Beach
County, "We want out."
Chairman Capretta and Co- Chairman Burckart advised Village
Manager Bradford to investigate hiring a consultant right
away; contact firms, get a time -span for development of an
implementation plan.
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April 6, 1989
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There being no other matters before the Committee for
consideration, the meeting was adjourned at 10:48 A.M.
A copy of Police Chief Roderick's First Aid /CPR Report and
Fire Report and Palm Beach County Fire- Rescue Data Sheet are
attached and made a part of these minutes for informational
purposes.
Respectfully submitted,
Joann M. Manganiello
Administrative Secretary
/JMM