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PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
MEETING MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 26, 1996
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The Tequesta Public Safety Committee held a regularly
scheduled meeting at the Village Hall, 357 Tequesta Drive,
Tequesta, Florida, on Thursday, September 26, 1996. The
meeting was called to order at 5:00 P.M. by Chairman Joseph
Capretta. A roll call was taken by Betty Laur, the
Recording Secretary. In attendance were: Chairman Joseph
Capretta, and Committeemembers Carl C. Hansen and Elizabeth
A. Schauer. Village Staff present were: Village Manager
Thomas G. Bradford and Department Heads.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Village Manager Bradford requested the addition of two items
under ANY OTHER MATTERS, discussion of whether the Village
could help the safety situation at the November 3 Jupiter-
Tequesta Junior Womens Club Arts & Craft Fair; and
information regarding the October EMS Grant Award.
Committeemember Schauer made a motion to approve the Agenda
as submitted. Committeemember Hansen seconded the motion.
The vote on the motion was:
Joseph N. Capretta - for
Carl C. Hansen - for
Elizabeth Schauer - for
IZerucled Pap��r
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The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the Agenda
was apgroved as amended.
III. CONIlr1UN2CATIONS FROM CITI�ENS
There were no communications from citizens.
ZV. RE�*IEW OF FACTORS RELATED TO CON FOR AMBULANCE TRANSPORT
Chairman Capretta commented that the Village must choose
which application, ALS non-transport or ALS transport, they
desired to submit to meet the October 2, 1996 deadline. At
the present time, the Village held the non-transport
license, which meant that in an emergency paramedics
answered the call and admini�tered medical procedures;
however, txansport to the hospital was done by Jupiter
Medical Service ambulances. Approximately three years ago,
Jupiter Medical Service had assumed the assets of North
County 3�mbulance Service, which had been started by Tequesta
residents. Chairman Capretta explained that the Village had
planned to contract with Jupiter Medical Service for
transport; however, the County would not allaw such an
arrangement, and also had changed the license to cover a
four-year period rather than the previous �two years.
Chairman Capretta commen�ed that if the ViZlage kept their
present non-transport license and the hospital's ambulance
service went aut of business, the Village would have secured
ambulance service from someone else, which carried the risk
of increased response times. If the Village applied for a
transport iicense, they must grovide ambulances and
equipment. Chairman Ca�retta stated that a decision must be
made at this meeting because of the October 2 deadline for.
application submittal.
Fire Chief Weinand explained that the Village had intended
to apply for a transport CON (Certificate of Necessity) and
to contract with Jupiter Medical for ambulance service;
however, the County EMS office had recently informed the
Vzllage that could not be done. Chief Weinand commented
that at the last Public 5afety meeting the consensus had
been to apply for the transport CON; therefore, costs had
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been researched and would be discussed at tanight's meeting
to be sure the Committee was comfortable with that decision
befare proceedinq forward.
Chief Weinand referred to the report provided to the
Committee which outlined the annual cost for ambulance
transport service on, a 12-month basis, and explained that
there would be no personnel costs since present staff would
be used. Costs would include insurance; general an.d vehicle
maintenance; cammunication maintenance; of�ice, safety and
medical supplies; and miscellaneous. A debt service payment
of $30,000 annually for 10 years was included for purchase
of two equipp�d ambulances. A chart showing annual revenue
ba.sed on 1995 statistics was reviewed, which indicated the
revenue the Village would have received if they had been
transporting during 1995, and showed that the dollar amount
which would have been realized at various collectian rate
percentages from 75� to 90o would have been $16,656 to
�29,321. An $Oo collection rate had been used as the basis
for the report, since research had revealed that the present
collection rate in. this area was between 80� and 90%. Chief
Weinand reported that �he present collection rate for Palm
Beach Gardens was approximately 85°a. Chief Weinand reported
that in every scenario, even one using a 75% collection
rate, the program showed a net income rather than a loss.
Chief Weinanct reviewed a chart of 1996 a.mbulance service
fees which averaged fees from a1.1 privatE and public
providers in Palm Beach County, and commented that LifeFleet
had the highest ALS fee and cov�red all of Palm Beach Caunty
from Boca Raton to Donald Ross Road except for the western
portion of the county. Chief Weinand commented that the
Village Council would set Tequesta's fee, and stated that
his recommendation was for a flat rate fee. Chie� Weinand
exp3ained that the difference between BLS, Basic Life
Support, ar�d ALS, Advanced Life Support, was that ALS
included IV therapy or druqs while BLS was only transport of
a sick person. The recommended flat rate of $300 plus
mileage from Tequesta to Jupiter 1�ledical Center resulted in
a rate of $326 per call, which had been used with the actual
n�mber of 1995 calls to calculate the total amount of annual
charges. The result had been $84,434 for Tequesta Fire
Rescue using the flat rate, and $86,914 for Jupiter Medical
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Center, whose rates were tierEd, showing that even though
the flat charge appeared higher that it was actually less
costly for the patient.
Vice Mayor Schauer inquired who would take care o� bil�ing,
to which Chief Weinand responded that West Palm Beach wauld
provide up to five billings for $6.25 per call, and if it
became necessary to involve a coll�ction agency that the
cost would be higher. Another possibility suggested by
Chief Weinand caas to have billing done by present Village
personnel; however, software would need to be purchased.
Chief Weinand explained �hat software research was currently
being conducted. The Vice Mayor commented that the billings
for North County Ambulance Service had been done by
volunteers, many of who still lived in the Village.
Chief Weinand reviewed a chart for FY 1996-1997 Budget
Expenditures, which showed the amounts needed in the budget
for the nine-month period from 1/11�7 to 9/30/97 in order to
operate the program. Net inca�r�.e was somewhat lower than
discussed earlier since a full year of debt service was
included with only nine months revenue.
Chief Weinand explained that start-up costs had been
calculated on a worst-case scenario with two ambulances at
$100,000 each; however, the Chief believed that one $100,000
ambulance could be used with a backup ambulance which could
be purchased for approximately $65,000. Chief Weinand
described various pieces of equipment which would be needed.
A one-time initial ambulance stock would be necessary, which
would be two ta three times the amount normally needed on a
ca11, but which would also replace inventory.
A chart of EMS calls for the past five years showed that the
volume of calls had increased each year.
One funding group had been contacted to date, which had
offered a proposal of a$220,000 note over either a seven or
ten-year term, with the first payment due October l, 1997.
This would allow the Village to collect al1 of the 1996
revenue before a payment was due, and to have funds
availabie if housinq modifications were needed for storage,
etc. Chief Weinand reported that other financing options
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were in the process of being obtained, so that the best one
for the Village could be chosen.
In response to Coun.cilmember Hansen's questzons regarding
storage, Chief Weinand commented that �he ambulances must be
kept in a secured area because of narcotics stored on them,
and that storage options included (1) pouring a slab between
the building and the generator fuel tank with a covered raof
and perimeter fencing; (2) an addition on.to the No. 1 bay;
or (3) removinq the present EMS storage roorn and decon
facility. The centralized garage might be used for �torage
and decon.
Chairman Capretta questioned what would happen if the
Village decided to apply for the non-transport license.
Chief Weinan.d explained that the Village would continue to
be a nan-transport provider and would �ontinue to use
ambulance service provided by Jupiter Medical Service. If
rumors were accurate and the ambulance service were sold,
th�n both rates and response times would increase. Similar
problems had been experienced by North Palm Beach, who was
now going inta transport, and by Lake Park, who was entering
the ALS business. Chairman Gapretta questioned the County
organization in regard to CON, to which Chief Weinand
responded that this was an additional layer of bureaucracy
in Palrn Beach Caunty that did not exist in other counties;
and that normally a city would receive their license from
the State. Chief Weinand explained that the County was
licensed for �1LS but not for BLS, which they had agreed to
I.eave for private firms; and that LifeFleet would not do ALS
unless requested by the County, LifeFleet could do AL5
inter-facility trar�sport between hospitals, which
rnunicipalities were prohibited from doinq by law. Chief
Weinand confirmed that the Village would be able to perform
both BLS and ALS under the ALS transport license.
Chairman Capretta questioned why North County Ambulance
Service Y�ad turned its assets over to Jupiter Medical
Service, to which Village Manager Bradford responded that
the Village Council had wan�ted to make sure that ambulance
service issues which came out of the Public Safety
referend�m were handled properly, and therefore, he had
become a member ot the Board of Directors of North County
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Ambulance. In the early 1990s the pracess had begun of
determining whether to st�y in business as a quasi-volunteer
organization, to sell. out to a private company, or to join
Jupiter Medical Center, which they ultimately did. Village
Manager Bradford explained that North County needed an
organization with deep pockets because of the poor track
record of their volunteers in collecting fees, and did not
want to operate as a full-�im.e business. They therefo�e had
transferred their assets to Jupiter Ambuiance, Inc., a nan-
profit organization, who still owned the building.
Councilmember Hansen. question.ed whether used ambulances had
been considered. Chief Weinand replied that was �.
possibility, however, ane that was too used would be
undesirable because of the frequency that it would be on the
street. Village Manager Bradford explained that Jupiter
Medical Center had not yet been approached regarding the
possibility af obtaining ambulances from them.
Councilmember Hansen inquired whether the Village would have
three rnonths to obtain equipment and pass inspectian, to
which Chief Weinand responded that the Village would have
three mon�hs before beginning operations, however, the
inspection by the County EMS would be in the middle of
December, so that in reality only 2-1/2 months would be
available in which to prepare, but that was adequate time to
get everything ready. Chief W�inand reported he had spoken
with two vendors, the largest one located in Orlando, who
would supply loaner ainbulances if those ordered by the
Village were not ready, and that loan.ers could be used for
ir�spection purposes. If the Village orde�ed vehicles with.
1996 stock chassis in early October they could be built by
early December. The Village would piggyback onto other
communities' bids tprobably the Town of Palm Beach} because
of insufficient time to go through a formal bid process.
During discussion of response times, Chief Weinand explained
that Tequesta had not had much of a problem, but there had
been one or two occasion� where the 10-minute response time
had not been met; however, Jupiter Medical had still met the
County requirement of a 10-minute average per month.
Councilmember Hansen coirimented that a positive reason to
consider transport was that now the Viliage was paying for
use of someone else's equipnlent and also their personnel. to
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operate that equipment, when Village staff was available who
could perform the same services and were already being paid
by tax dol.lars. Chief Weinand commented tha� there had been
an average of 1-1J2 ambulance transports each day.
Councilmember Capretta commented that the decision. to
transport would contribute to the lack of adequate facil.ity
space, and that the Village wou.ld soon have to come up with
a camprehensive plan for facilities. Durin.g discussion of
personnel, Chief Weinand reported there were 17 firefighters
including himself, with seven of them qualified as
paramedics az�d on.e still in school. Two paramedics were on
duty each day. Police Lieutenant Garlo explained that all
police officers had received first responder training
certifieations. Chie� Weinand explained that ongoing
training was conducted with the Police Departrnent, and also
commented that 60� of ca11s received would be answe�ed by a
police car and ambulance, keeping the fire truck off the
road except for serious cases.
Betty Nagy question:ed the necessity of praviding apartments
for firefighters. Chief Weinand responded that the fire
sta�ion provided living quarters for firefighters. Village
Manager Bradford explained that the idea of constructing
apartm.ents which had been discussed in previous meetings was
not to provide quarters for firefighters, but for operation
of a program similar to the Peace Corp where individuals
would donate their services for 2-4 years under an
apprenticeship in exchange for room and board, The Village
Manager said that debt service for this arrangement would be
cheaper than hiring additional full-time personnel, that
Tequesta would be the innovator of this concept since it was
not being used by other municipalities, and that volunteers
for the program had already contacted the Village.
Committeemember Hansen made a motion to proceed with an ALS
transpc�rt Certificate of Neces�ity for four years beginning
January 1, 1997. Committeeme�ber Schauer seconded the
motion. The vote on the motion was:
Ja�egh N. Capretta - far
Carl C. Hansen - for
Elizabeth Sahauer - for
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The motion was therefore passed and adopted.
Chief Weinand stated that positives would be the redu�tion
o� emergency vehicles on the �oads, and that the Village
would have four emergen.cy vehicles instead of two in the
event of a hurricane. Village Manager Bradford requested
that Chief Weinand consult with Finance Director Kascaveiis
to be certain that funds we�e available within the budget
for startup and possible renovations, Chief Weinand
reported that he had discussed the ma'tter with Mr.
Kascavelis that day and it had been determined that the
$12,OOQ quarterly cash flow needed could came from surplus
in the General Corporate Account. Vice Mayor Schauer
suggested a dinner dance fundraiser fpr the Police and Fire
Departments. Village Manager Bradford advised that the
Village should be ready for inspection in November. Chief
Weinand explained that the EMS Council wou].d make a
recommendation in November to the County Gommission
regarding their choice of bidders, so that the Commission
could make the bid award in Navember, contingen.t on
in�pection by December 31.
Village Manager Bradford reported that he had learned from
John Turner, a volunteer at Jupiter Hospital Emergency Room,
that aZl Jupiter police officers were being trained in the
use of a$500 semi-automatic defibrillator device which
would allow emergency treatment by the officer before
arrival of the ambulance. Chief Weinand explained that he
and former Police Chief Roderi.ck had researched the devices,
but had concluded that since Tequesta's response times were
so low that they were not ne�essary. Because the difference
in police and EMS response time was usually only one minute,
police would not have time to set up the unit befare EMS
arrived.
V. ANY C?THER MATTERS
Village Manager Bradford explained �that because of the
parking problems last year at the Jupiter Tequesta Junior
Womens Club Arts & Craft Fair, Councilmember Meder had
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questioned whether the Village cauld do anything to help the
situation at this year's event, however, the Village had n.o
jurisdiction in Tequesta Park. Councilmember Meder
questioned whether the support o� either the County Sheriff
or Pa�k Police could be enlisted, and commented that
although the Martin County Sheriff's Department did not
he1p, they did show up to write tickets, which made Tequesta
look bad. During discussion, a suggestion was made that the
Village Manager recommend to the �'upiter Tequesta Junior
Womens Club that they request assistance from Martin County.
Use of a Tequesta Police Officer was discussed. Lieutenant
Garlo expressed his unwillingness to place a uniformed
officer in an area out af Tequesta's jurisdiction. It was
pointed out that the Village could have an officer at the
parking area within the Village. A decisian was made to
have the Tequesta Police Department contact the Martin
County Sheriff's Office, and also to have Village Manager
Bradford outline in his letter to �he Jupiter Tequesta
Junior Womens Club steps they might want to take to assure
the success of their event, on.e of which would be to contact
the Martin County Sheriff's Department.
Village Manager Bradford explained that an agenda item fox
the October 10 meeting of the Village Council would be
consideration of a resolution approving the EMS grant from
Palm Beach County which would be used to purchase an IV
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V'ice Mayor Schauer's idea to hold a fundraiser dinner dance
to benefit the Police and Fire Departments was discussed.
Vice Mayor Schauer commented that she had discussed the idea
with the Chief's wife and that with the help of someone from
the Police Depar�ment, the three of them could organize the
event. Village Manager Bradford explained that the alcohol
poZicy should probably be changed at the Recreation Center
because of many calls from potential renters of the facility
who wanted to serve alcohol at those events. Other possible
locations sugqested were the Country Club, the American
Legion Hall, the Hilton, the Elks, and the Jupiter Inlet
Colony Club, however, it was stated that use of the club was
restricted ta Jupiter Inlet Colony members. The hiqh prices
of the food at the Country Club were discussed. Vice Mayor
Schauer suggested a 50/50 raffle at the event.
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Councilmember Capretta suggested holding the event on a
Friday or Saturday, and to ask for contributions from local
businessmen and to ask wealthy citizens to buy ten tickets
instead of one. The Vice Mayor suggested that the Police
Department and the Fire Department each make up a wish list,
and that an announcement could be made at the event of what
the money raised would be used to purchase. Consensus of
the Committee was to have Vice Mayor Schauer proceed with
plans for this event.
VI. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Committee, the
meeting was adjourned at 6:06 P.M.
�- � Respectfully submitted,
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Recording Secretary
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Village Clerk
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