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FEBRUARY 26, 1992 -•
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Gentile called the meeting to order at 3:10 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
Chairman Gentile requested that members sign the attendance
sheet. '
The following members were in attendance:
J. Roger Anderson (Jupiter Inlet Colony�, Jim Davis
(Jupiter), Brian Gentry (PaYm Beach County), Gale English (South
Indian River Water Control Districta, Peter Pimentel (Northern
Pal.m Beach County Water Control District), Cathy Hawkins (North
Palm Beach Heights Water Control District), Dr. Ernest Kuonen -
(Tequesta), Dennis Barrett tJuno)
The following member was absent:
Scott Webber (Martin County)
Staff and consultants in attendance included:
John Wodraska, Gary 8ors, Andy Gregson, Curtis Shenkman,
Richard Dent, Clinton Yerkes.
3. REVIEW AND APPR4VAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES
The minutes of the January 22, 1992 meeting were presented
for review and approval.
MOTION: Made by Mr. Pimentel/Dr. Kuonen
Passed unanimously
That the minutes of the January 22, 1992 Committee
Meeting be approved.
Mr. Wodraska reviewed�the summary and recommendation which
he had prepared for the Committee and distributed to members
prior to this meeting. It was stated that the summary and
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recommendations had been prepared from review of ineeting minutes
and in response to the mission which the Committee had defined
for itself. A copy of Mr. Wodraska's memo is attached.
Mr. Wodraska indicated a desire to come to closure on the
Committee's activities and recommendations which would be , .
presented to the Board at the March meeting with Hazen & Sawyer
report.
Mr. Pimentel questioned when the report was proposed to be
completed.
Mr. Bors stated that it would be completed in about a week
and presented to the Board in March.
Mr. Dent indicated that the Board will have a March 12,
1992 Workshop Meeting at which Hazen & Sawyer's report would be
presented, and hopefully a recommendation would be presented by
the Committee.
Mr. English stated that the Committee�s recommendation
should not be made until it has a chance to review Hazen &
Sawyer's report.
Mr. Bors indicated that the report is basically what the
Committee has been presented over the past months. �
Mr. English questioned a number of statements in the memo
� prepared by Mr. Wodraska. Specifically, Mr. English stated that
he did not agree with a unified testing program., and that he
understood that the District was not authorized to perform
testing in the river. �
Mr. Shenkman stated that after the question of District's
jurisdiction had been brought up last time he had reviewed the -
charter and found that the District is enabled to perform
activities (ie: testing, monitoring) within the river itself.
Modifications to the wording of the memo were suggested,
however, Mr. English stated that he could not concur with
changes, and believed that the recommendations should be
prepared by an independent party.
Mr. Pimentel questioned what was being asked for from the
Committee. He suggested that the report be provided to the
Committee before a plan of action be recommended and did not
feel sufficient information has been presented to date, to make
that recommendation.
Mr. Wodraska referred to the mission statement of the
Committee and the information which has been provided by Hazen &
Sawyer.
Mr. Dent summarized the schedules and delays which have
occurred in the Committee's report and that the Committee was to
provide input concerning the governmental impacts.
Mr. Dent reviewed the specific recommendations and
expressed hope that the Committee could come to closure on at
least some of them.
Mr. Kuonen questioned whether there was any objection to
recommendations A-D, there was none among the members, however,
members did want to discuss item E.
.. - Discuss�on was held concerning warding of the memo leading
up to the recommendation.
Mr. Bors stated that the matrix and memo are in the report
which will be provided to the Board just as it was presented to
the Gommittee.
- Mr. Anderson stated his concern that no objective criteria
were established or proposed to be established prior to the
planning effort. He stated that the objective criteria must be
established first and the planning process be anchored by these
criteria.
� Mr. Wodraska stated that it was recognized that Mr. English
had �aid out his opposition to the recommendations, and
requested other members positions.
Mr. Barrett expressed concerns that unless something
specific was being proposed, and a regulatory role was
established that other entities would have to abide by, he could
not support the District's involvement in Juno Beach's
stormwater program.
Mr. Dent stated that the concerns were valid but answers
might be premature until the problem and role of the District -
are further defined, as indicated in the recommendations. Much
more work needs to be done before answers can be provided. -
Ms. Hawkins stated that more information needs to be
provided before the Committee can �ecommend how to take care of
the problem.
Mr. Dent responded that the Committee needs to advise the
Board if they feel it is wprth pursuing betore more money can be
spent by the District. Sufficient information should have been
presented over the past months to make some recommendations to
the Board.
Mr. Kurt Cooper (Consultant to Town of Jupiter) made
comment that definitive water quality data on the river
concerning stormwater impacts has not been presented and
therefore there is no sense of urgenc�r to remedy the problem.
Discussion followed concerning various reports which have
been presented and are in progress which do a.dentify stormwater
as a problem in the river today, and a threat to the future of
the river.
Mr. Anderson again stated that numerical objective criteria
must be established for the xiver.
A poll was taken by Mr. Gentile of each of the members on
each of the recommendations.
Statement of Martin County was read into the record as it
pertained to each of the recommendations:
A - unanimous
B - unanimous
C- Mr. English objected to the wording of C.
M�difications to wording of this item were discussed and
offered as follows:
PART II of the recommendation
"Further analysis of community support is
recommended before ENCON initiates a Storm-
water Management Program"
PART I
"Information must be compiled to identify
areas of concern relative to the comprehensive
application of stormwater management practices
and the impact of stormwater impacts in the
Loxahatchee River"
unanimously approved
D - unanimously approved
E- Discussion was held concerning revisions to
the wording af this item.
It was agreed tl�at the first two sentences were
satisfactory. After discussion it was also agreed that the
components of the plan were too broad and the role should be
better defined for what was needed from the District. The
Committee defined the next step which should be accomplished as
establishing specific numerical Water Quality Criteria which
will be compatible with NPDES requirements if they are known.
It was agreed that the balance of the.memo will not be
presented to the Board, only the recommended motions.
The wording of the entire recommendation was as follows:
A. Rule 31-14, as introduced in June of 1991 be permanently
withdrawn.
B. The technical, institutional and financial solutions to the
problems of Stormwater Management in the Loxahatchee River
Basin have not been adequately developed to allow the
Stormwater Advisory Committee to recommend definitive
comprehensive action for the Loxahatchee River Environmental
Control District at this time.
C. Further analysis and community support is recommended before
the Loxahatchee River Environmental Control District
initiates Stormwater Management programs.
D. The Stormwater Advisory Committee recommends that if the
Loxahatchee River Environmental Control District continues
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to develop its role in stormwater that an Advisory Committee
remain involved to provide guidance and counsel to the
District.
. E. The final recommendation of the Committee relates to the
defined role in stormwater which the District could
undertake. In general, this role would be as a facilitator
and planner which would coordinate the formulation of a
Loxahatchee River Basin Stormwater Management Plan. The
objective of the next phase would be to specific,
numerical Water Quality Criteria which will be compatible
with NPDES Criteria, if known.
Mr. Pimentel suggested that the recommendations be
considered as tentative, based on the information provided to
date, which was agreed to by the other members.
Mr. English stated that his actions do not necessarily
reflect the feelings of his Board.
Mr. Pimtentel suggested that the recommendations should be ,
reviewed by the respective commissions.
It was agreed that the text of the revised wording of the
recommendations would be distributed to members by the end of
the week so that their boards could review and their comments be
provided to the District for the March 12, Workshop Meeting.
MOTION; Made by Mr. Anderson/Dr. Kuonen -
Passed unanimously
"That this be considered the recommendation of
the majority of inembers of the SAC."