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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDocumentation_Regular_Tab 05D_08/12/2004 , .,_.,----- � � VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA PLANNING AND ZONING ADVISORY BOARD � MEETING MINUTES JITNE 16, 2004 I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL The Village of Tequesta Planning and Zoning Advisory Board held a regularly scheduled meeting at the Tequesta Recreation Center, 399 Seabrook Road, Tequesta, Florida, on Wednesday, June 16, 2004. The meeting was called to order at 6:31 P.M. by Chair Elizabeth Schauer. A roll call was taken by Recording Secretary Betty Laur. Board members present were: Chair Elizabeth Schauer, Vice Chair Steve Okun, Leslie Cook, and William Wilder. Boardmember Jeff Robbins was absent. Also in attendance was Clerk of the Board 3eff Newell. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Chair Schauer requested addition under ANY OTHER MATTERS of the entertainment ordinance. MOTION Vice Chair Okun moved approval of the agenda as amended. Board member Wilder seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 4-0 vote. The motion was therefore passed and adopted and the Agenda was approved as amended. III. APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES Vice Chair Okun moved approval of the minutes of the meeting of May 19, 2004 as submitted. Board member Wilder seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 4-0 vote. IV. NEW BUSINESS A. Review of Village of Tequesta's Recreation Center Application for Monument Sign Modifications � Planning and Zoning Advisory Board 6/16/04 Meeting Minutes Page 2 Community Development Director Jeff Newell, Clerk of the Board, described the Board's duties, and explained they would be reviewing many signs. Mr. Newell reported the Recreation Director had not realized that the Recreation Center monument sign had to go through a review process since it was considered commercial. Because changes had been made in the sign, the Board was required to review and approve as completed or make any changes. Boardmember Wilder commented he thought it was beautiful and a big improvement over the previous sign. Boardmember Cook commented it was fine. Vice Chair Okun commented he felt the sign was difficult to read with the green and the white outline, and there were a lot of older residents who might be visually challenged; and recommended Village signs be very easy to read. Vice Chair Okun commented if a standard was established, on every Village sign there should be uniformity so that it could readily be identified as a Village sign. If this sign design was unique, he had a problem with it, because he felt there should be uniform identity and format, the only difference being what it was identifying. Mr. Newell responded that currently the Village did not have a standard sign format, and he would expect that might be established when the new Village Hall was built. Currently the only Village building seen was the Public Safety facility, and he did not know if the same colors would be used for the Village Hall. Mr. Newell reported there had been talk of renovating the front of the Recreation Center, and if that were done the colors would probably match the Public Safety building. Currently, there was no standard. Mr. Okun commented he was not speaking about the building colors but more to the actual design and choice of identifying features— lettering, specific size of the lettering, etc. Mr. Okun said he saw no good reason to have "399" on this sign, since he did not think the address should be a part of a sign identifying the function of the building. He was not suggesting it be eliminated, but that it be moved out to a column so as not to be the focal point of the sign. Chair Schauer noted that could easily be done and in a larger size. Mr. Okun commented his point was to say if there was not a standard, there should be uniformity of everything—signs, vehicles, letterhead, etc. Boardmember Cook commented there were signs entering the Village from either side and the Board could consider that=take pictures of those. Chair Schauer asked when the Village Hall was incorporated, if the Indian logo of the Village was going to be used in these colors, and asked if this sign was setting a precedent because at the Water Treatment plant, the logo was not colored like this. Mr. Newell commented he was not aware a precedent was being set, it was just that this was what Mr. Corbitt had done. Chair Schauer asked if a similar sign could be done for Tequesta Park; then there would be uniformity identifying the Recreation facilities. Boardmember Cook commented if Mr. Corbitt had come to the board first they would have made suggestions that it should be simpler, etc., but it was already done, and she did not think this lead should be followed for other locations. Boardmember Cook suggested forgetting the trees in the background and using only the logo on uniform signs. Mr. Okun commented the Village should be more diligent about establishing uniformity, the fact that a staff inember 1 Planning and Zoning Advisory Board : 6/16/04 Meeting Minutes Page 3 took the initiative to move forward on a sign which had already been produced ; did not suggest to him that was now the standaxd. What needed to be done was to ' consider establishing uniformity in signage and all things related to the Village i and that should be compatible and married well with the entire image program — business cards, letterheads, etc., and not to throw everything out but to have a plan and when it was time to do something there would be a uniform plan, uniform identity, uniform color scheme already done, and it would not be up to the whimsy of someone to design a sign they thought would look nice for a specific location. Mr. Newell advised the board had the opportunity to do that with this monument sign. Boardmember Cook suggested it be left as is for now so as not to waste money. Chair Schauer commented this was done with taxpayer money and to ask Mr. Corbitt to come before the board in the future. Mr. Okun commented it would be better to say that a uniform sign program was going to be established so that when someone accidentally backed into a sign and the Village had to spend the money anyway, there was a footprint of where to go and an orderly process should be established with professional input. Mr. Okun stated he dealt with signs on a regular basis and this one could be improved. Chair Schauer commented on the lighthouse logo used by Jupiter, and that Tequesta had always used the Indian logo. Mr. Okun advised there were a lot of different mediums that could be used rather than paint or plastic, and the Town of Jupiter had some beautiful sandblasted signs that were much more practical because they were internally illuminated and had a longer life than some other materials. If the Village was going to undertake this then there was a responsibility to look at all options and alternatives, and this sign should not be ground zero for a decision. Chair Schauer agreed. Mr. Newell commented this was part of the boaxd's newly acquired responsibilities, and all commercial signs would be coming before the board. Mr. Okun suggested getting a feel from the Village Council as to what they would like. Mr. Newell commented the Village Council would be pretty comfortable with what this board recommended, but they could make changes. Mr. Wilder commented if the Village Council was set on having the Indian logo it would stay, and the new Village Hall would have a sign involved. Mr. Newell advised that City Hall would come before this board. Mr. Wilder commented it would be good for the board and the Village Council to work together. Chair Schauer commented that for the Tequesta memorial, the bust of the Tequesta Indian was the focal point, and that logo might be used in the Village Hall but not in the colors Mr. Corbitt had used. Using the logo could create uniformity. Mr. Okun commented he had been involved in a logo change for a municipality in the past and what had been done was to consider what kind of a uniform message they wanted from this point forward. Some of the old had been incorporated because of tradition, and also some of the things that showed how the municipality had evolved, and they had freshened everything up, and that had been very well accepted. Mr. Okun commented he did not know the history of the logo, that the Tequesta Indians were really in the Miami area, and suggested the logo might be changed. Mr. Newell commented the logo could be changed and that process would start here with this board. Mrs. Cook commented a lot of { Planning and Zoning Advisory Board 6/16/04 Meeting Minutes Page 4 j :, a people liked the logo and she would venture to say Mr. Okun was stuck with the ; logo, but that was fine, and everybody knew the Tequesta Indians were really in ; Miami, but the Village had been named Tequesta and that logo had been selected. � 1 Chair Schauer commented the Tequesta Country Club had a different Indian. Mr. Okun commented the Village was next to the ocean and there were so many other things that could be used. Chair Schauer asked for guidance as to how to establish a signage identity. Mr. Newell commented the first thing would be for him to research it, and advised that when he had been in Clewiston that had been done. The Council would need to initiate it by selecting some designs. Mr. Okun asked if it should be opened up to community input and suggestions. Mr. Newell commented that recommendation should be made to the Village Council and let them initiate that. Mr. Wilder commented he felt this board had no objection to leaving this sign the way it was but would like to establish a sign ordinance for public buildings so that a person could right away identify a public building, with signs uniform in design and color. Mr. Okun commented that should carry over to police cars—that uniform identity should be established whether for a building or anything else associated with the Village. Mr. Newell suggested the Chair could be directed to write a letter to the Mayor that the board was looking at establishing a standaxd logo for the Village. Boardmember Cook suggested the letter should make a recommendation that the Village look into establishing a uniform signage for all public buildings. Boardmember Cook commented what would happen would be the Village Council would do the work, they would come to the board for their opinion, the Council would listen to the board's opinion, and decide if they liked the board's opinion or not. Mr. Newell commented the public would fill the chambers. The letter would be sent to the Mayor and entire Council. MOTION Boardmember Cook made a motion to accept the Village of Tequesta's Recreation Center Monument Sign Modifications as presented. Mr. Okun seconded the motion. Chair Schauer asked if the board wanted to change the address to the street side. Mr. Wilder did not think so because the way it was the address could be seen from both ways, and if the number faced the street it could not be seen until it was passed. Mr. Newell suggested the "399" might be moved out of the enclosed field, which would make it more conspicuous and let the wording stand on its own. Chair Schauer commented the numbers could be placed on top of the front door. Boardmember Cook amended the motion to move the number outside of the enclosed field.. Mr. Okun seconded the amended motion. Mr. Wilder stated he thought the number should stay exactly where it was. Mr. Okun withdrew his second in order to get rid of the motion since the vote on that motion would have been a tie. Boardmember Cook made a new motion to accept the Village of Tequesta's Recreation Center Monument Sign Modifications as presented. Planning and Zoning Advisory Board 6/16/04 Meeting Minutes Page 5 Boardmember Wilder seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 4-0 vote. Chair Schauer indicated she would drop off the letter to Mr. Newell who could then distribute copies to the boardmembers. B. Review of Gallery Square South Application for change of Concrete Roof Tile to Spanish Barrel Tile. Mr. Newell advised that owner Rosalee Consiglio was present, and wanted to change the tile on her building from the flat concrete tile to the Spanish "S" tile a simulated barrel tile. MOTION Boardmember Cook made a motion that the board accept the change of concrete roof tile to Spanish barrel tile as proposed, on the Gallery Square South building at 370 Tequesta Drive. Vice Chair Okun seconded the motion. Mr. Wilder commented this tile would look good a long time and require less maintenance. Ms. Consiglio showed the board a sample of the tile, which was really an "S" tile. Chair Schauer indicated the new tile should be less costly for maintenance. The vote on the motion carried by unanimous 4-0 vote. V. COMMUNICATION FROM CITIZENS There were no communications from citizens. VI. ANY OTHER MATTERS Chair Schauer asked when the entertainment ordinance would be coming back before the board. Mr. Newell reported he had just received information on a Federal case that would set precedent on the virtual aspect, and the information would be presented at the next meeting. The attorney had indicated the boaxd was right in strengthening the definition to include virtual adult entertainment. Mr. Newell had spoken to Norman Berg, the property owner, who was fine with it and not upset that his property had been targeted. Vice Chair Okun commented a good point to be remembered was because we now live in a virtual society that a lot of the actions that were taken should be tempered by that awareness. Mr. Newell commented he had discussed that with Attorney Roselli, and that had to be incorporated into the occupational licensing with correct definitions. Mr. Newell commented once the Federal case was completed it could go into references for the ordinance. Mr. Newell was asked if that had to be done before the Council approved the ordinance, to which he responded that when the board was done with it and they wanted to incorporate 1 Planning and Zoning Advisory Board 6/16/04 Meeting Minutes Page 6 changes and expanded definitions, that he would have to go to the Village Manager to `3 get authority to allow Attorney Karen Roselli to do the changes; then Mr. Newell would bring a final draft back to the board to make sure everything was right and the ' board was comfortable with it, and then it would be taken to the Village Council. Vice Chair Okun asked if the fact that it was a pending ordinance made any issues that happened while it was being worked on retroactive. Mr. Newell commented it was zoning in progress and that the present prohibition of adult entertainment within the Village still stood. It was not allowed. Mr. Okun commented in the absence of any ordinance it was a vacuum so was allowed everywhere; but because the ordinance was now being worked on, this held everything at bay. Mr. Newell commented that was correct. Mr. Newell commented this ordinance was required by law, and once completed, the board would move on to the adult video arcade (not pornography), for which there was currently zoning in progress. Mr. Newell commented the adult video arcades were set up the same way as in Chuck E. Cheese establishments, with prizes given, but it was basically gambling, so counties and municipalities were passing ordinances against it. Chair Schauer asked about the stop sign issue, which Mr. Newell indicated he would research. Mr. Okun commented there was another issue tandem to the stop sign issue, which was when Publix went in there would be additional stop signs in the plaza. Mr. Okun asked if this would continue to come before the board, to which Mr. Newell responded that it would. Mr. Okun commented there had to be a certain authority extended for police powers to be used on private property and if there was a stop sign that was disregarded and if a police officer issued a citation on private property that was going to be an embarrassment. Mr. Newell commented he did not know the law except in fire lanes tickets were given. Mr. Okun stated that it needed to be clear what the police could enforce on private property. Mr. Newell indicated he could consult Police Chief Allison for the law and pass it on to the board. Mr. Wilder commented when he worked with the School Board in building schools they were told stop signs on private property could not be enforced. Mr. Newe11 commented if someone ran a stop sign and hit a student they would be sued. Mr. Okun commented if any municipality was aware of an unsafe, illegal traffic control, the fact they were awaxe of it was notice they must correct it. If they did not correct it they would be party to the same litigation as when a student got hit. Mr. Okun stated a clear definition was needed. Mr. Newell commented he would get the information from Chief Allison, and advised that projects were reviewed by the Development Review Committee—an in-house review of site plans, and the Police Department reviewed the site plans as well as the other departments, and the Police Department's concerns were usually with lighting. Chair Schauer commented when St. Jude's was built she had to call the Police Department to find out DOT standards for stop signs and where to order the signs. Vice Chair Okun commented if it was not a legal sign but she had received advice from the Police Department it was just a continuation of the Police Department being on notice. Vice Chair Okun was concerned about a specific location where there were double stop signs that gave a false sense of Planning and Zoning Advisory Board 6/16/04 Meeting Minutes Page 7 security. Mr. Newell commented there should be a pedestrian warning at that location. Mr. Okun commented the clear sight triangle was not enforced there. Chair Schauer announced that the next meeting of the board would be held July 21, 2004. IV. ADJOURNMENT Upon motion by Vice Chair Okun, seconded by Board member Wilder, and unanimously carried, the meeting was adjourned at 8:10 p.m. Respectfully submitted, � � �,� � _.. ,_ � ,_�� �...,�� ) .�._.-�t�� Betty Laur Recording Secretary