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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDocumentation_Regular_Tab 07C_09/09/1999 �� • � t �� '� VILLA�E OF TEQUESTA DII'A,R'TNI�NT OF COMMUNTTY DEVELOPMENT � o � Post Office Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive 3 `'� o Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • C561) 575-6220 y Fax: (561) 575-6239 co VII�LAGE OF TEQUESTA CU14�VIUNITY APPEA►RANCE BUARD MEETING MINi7`i'ES JULY 14, 1999 � I. CAI�L TO ORDFsR AN� ROLL CALL The Tequesta Community Appearance Board held a meeting in the Village Council Chambers at 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida, on wednesday, July 14, i999. TYie meeting was called to order at 9:31 A.M. by Chair Leslie Cook. Boardmembers present were Chair Leslie Cook, Vice Chair Vic Strahan, Paul Coben, Claudette Dalack, and Molly McConmick, Also in attendance was �Tillage Planxier Kara Irwin, sitting ,. in for Scott D. Ladd, Clerk of t�he Board. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Chair Cook announced that the agenda was approved as submitted. III. COD�l.QNICATIONS FROM CITIZSNS There were no communications from citizens. III. APPROVAL OF FREYIOIIS MS]3TINf3 MINO'PLS Hearing no corrections, Chair Cook announced that the minutes of the June 23, 1999 meeting were accepted as submitted. Recyc[ed Paper � • COMMUNITY APPBARANCS BOARI3 �3STINt3 MINtTPLS July 14, I999 Page 2 . -•--------•--------------- IV. N8� BIISINE3S 1. An applicati.oa frvm4 �ould Signs for a) the relocatioa of four (4) eacisting light poles with siagle ffxture8 to aarth ead of parkiag lot, b) replace eight (8) existiag single fixture polea with double fixturea a�ad poles, aad c) ias�all three (3) ae�+ poles with double fixtures for the parkia�g area of the Teque�ta S�oppe8 mhich is located at 105-185 II.S. Oae North. Don �ould, Gould Signs, expiained that the request was made to improve lighting for traffic and security at Tequesta Shoppes. Boardmember Coben commented h� did not want to rain on Mr. Gould�s parade, but w�nted to know what had been iearned about the fountains, to whicM. Acting Clerk of the Board Kara Irwin responded that was a separate application and that applicant would be coming - before the Board. Boarclmember Coben com�nented I�� was�� t going to let_this app�icant do this if the fountains were not �aken care of. Boardmember Coben questioned whether the fixtures were th� same as �he existing fixtures on the poles in fron� of Publix. Mr. Gould r�sponded that the fixtures requested were basically the same style, size, and shape, but two fixtures would be placed on each pole instead of one in order to in,crease the area of light provided. Boardmember Steve Parker joined the meeting at this point at 9:35 A.M. Mr. Gould conunented that no landscaping would be changed, and explained �hat the red dots shown on the plan indicated existing and replacement fixtures, and that there was an a.sland for each fixture. Mr. Gould explained that the fixtures would be the same size, shape, and bronze color as the existing fixtures; however, the fibergiass poles would be replaced with concrete poles which would be strong enough to hold two . • COMMUNITY APPEARANCB SOARD �STING �INOTBS July 14, 1999 Page 3 -----------=-------------- fixtures. The concrete poles were described as small compared to the concrete poles useti by FP & L. Mr. Gould commented that fiberglass poles were not strong enough to support two fixtures and that sun deteriorated the €ibergiass poles. Mr. Gould explained that the fixtures would provide 400 watts white light. Soardmember Cob�a made a motioa to. approve the application as svb�itted fromt Gould Sigaa �or a) the relacatioa of fo�tr (4) exi$ti.ag light poles with siagle fi�tures to aorth end of parking lot, b) to replace eight (8) existiag single fixture pole� with dou�le fi�cturea aad poies, aad c) to iastal7, t�ree (3� nea po3es �rith double fixtures for the parkiag area of the �equesta Shopges which is located at 105-185 II.S. One Dtor�h. Soardmember Dalack seconded the matioa. The vote oa the motioa aas: Leslie Cook - for vic Strahaa - far Paul Coben - for Clsudette Da3ack - for Molly �cCormick - for The motioa a�as therefore paBSed aad adoptad. 2. Aa applicatiaa from Doaahue & Compaay for a chsage ia roo£ tile at Clare Sridge, 2a3 Village Soulevard, from the Pioaeer green blended roof tile approved at the �ay 19, i999, Comamuni.ty Appearaace 8oard meetiag to either Monier "=sle �vo�th" 3 tile blead (greea) of �oaier "Vermoat areea", both "S" tile. AND 3. Aa applicatioa from Doaahue & Compaay for a cbaa,ge ia roof tile at Crossiags, 217 viliage Soulevard, from the Pioaeer greea bleuded roof tile approved at the �ay 19, 199�, Comomauaity Appearaace Soard meetiag to either �onier � . COMdiIINST3f APP$ARANCI3 $OARD b�SBTING �INOTES July 14, 1999 Page 4 -------------------------- "isie �Porth" 3 tile blead tgreen) of Moaier "Vermoat Greea", both "S" tile. Ann �ils, representative for ponahue � Company, explained that the tiie approved at the Ma.y 19, 1999 meeting could no ianger be obtained; therefore, these appiications had been. made to obtain approvai for an alternate. During the current week, the manufacturer of the original til� , used on Sterling House had agreed to reproduce that original-tile, which the applicant wished to use. Ms. Fils also requested an alternate be approved in case � something happened and the offer �o reproduce the original tile was withdrawn. Discussion ensued regarding the various tile samples shown. Soardmem�ber Col�ea made a motion to germit the coatractor to revert to the origiaally approved ti.le at C].are Sridge, 2a3 'village 8cuievard, and ia the eveat that tile became vaav�.i.labie to ap$rove Moaier "Is1eN�xth" No. 2I.3 af the 3-blextd set as a svbstitute. Soarc'�nember McCormick secoadecl the motioa. The vote on the mo�ioa waBe Leslie Cook - far �Tic Strahaa - for �aul Cobea - for Claudette Dalack - for �olly McCorm3ck - for The motioa �ras therefore pasaed aad adopted. Soardmember Cobea made a m�tioa to permit the contractor to revert to the origiaally approvad tile at Crossiaga, 217 village 8oulevard and ia the ev�nt that tile became uaanaf.].able to approve �oaier "=sleworth" No. 213 of the 3-biend set as a substitute. Soardmember �cCormick secoaded the motioa. The vote oa the motioa was: CO�iC1NIT'Y APPEARANCE SOARD �STiNG MINOTSS July 14, 1999 Page 5 -------------------------- Leslie �QOk - for V3c Strahan - for Paul Cobea - for Claud�ette Dalack - for �olly �eCormick - for The motfoa was therefore passed aad adopted. v= . �rnc o�R as�z-r$�s Boardmember Coben questioned what was happening regarding the iandscaping at�Tequesta Shoppes. Acting Cierk of the Board Kara Irwin responded that the applicant had been ,_,-_-- contact�d and wouid come before the Board, and had r�ot realized it was necessary. Planner Zrwin reported that the fountain5 had been leai�ing,� which was why the -_ decision had been made to=:.fill them in. Chair Cook commented that fountains brough.t oxygen to the aiz to take away air pollution. Boardmember McCormick described misters placed on buiidings in Arizona which cooled the air.. Boardmember Coben inquired when the Board would see _ something on Tequesta Plaza, to which Vice Chair Strahan responded i�. was coming in front of the village Councii on August i2. Boardmember Coben inquired whether it went to the Village Council first. Chair Cook questioz�ed whether the application was for �he building to be built by Mr. Zuccarelli. Boardmember Coben indicated it was both the building and the landscaping. Chair Cook commented that Mr. �uccarelli could have had that redone by now and iandscapin� put in. Boardmember Coben cammented it was a nice pian, with which Vice Chair Strahan concurred. Vice Chair Strahan commented it was his understanding the application would be presented at the August 12 Village Council meeting and would come to r C��[QNITY APPEARANCB BOARD �ETiNG MINOTSS July 14, 1999 Page 6 --•----------------------- the C�+,B for fine tuning after that. Boardmember Coben commented he did not like that idea. Boardmember Parker � commented it seemed backwards. Boardmember Parker commented this was the only community he was aware of that did it that way. Boardmember Coben commented Tequesta used to do it the other way, and the reason for the cha�.ge was adoption of a procedure a7.lowing for a quick appro�ral for extra mone�r, and what that did was to circumvent the �AB except for fine tuning, and he believed that was very bad. Chair Coal� commented that perhaps the CAB should go before the viilage Council to teil them how they felt. Vice Chair Strahan commented that the other aspect of that was if someone came with a new development like Tequesta plaza and was approved by the CAB then subsequently it might be denied by the Viilage Council. Chair Cook responded that the CAB was onl�r giving approval for �he appearance, and if the �AB - found the appearance to be objectibnabie or acceptable, the Viliage Council was aware of that ev�n if the plan wa5 not acceptabie to the village Council. Boardmember Coben commen�ed that although this procedure had not prevented the CAB from making constructive changes in the past, his problem with �he proc�dure was that it wasted a lot of time at �Tiliage Council- meetings because the Village Council became the CAB on first reading. and wasted a lot of time doing things that the CAB wouid normally do. Another Boardmember agreed, stating that it was beyond the Village Council�s ability. Chair Cook commented that while everybody thought they had some artistic abiiity, everyone on the CAB did have an artistic background. Boardmember Coben expressed his belief that the procedure just didn�t make sense since the Village �ouncil by definition had the capability to reject the CAB actions. The next village Council meeting was announced to be July 22. Chair Cook commented that the bad thing about the procedure was that the developer would get an ol�ay and thought it would be a shoe-in so would go ahead and �pend money €or architects to do final » COI�ONITY APP$ARANCTs BOARD b�$TIWC� D�I�TUTES July 14, 1999 Page 7 drawings, and then it was presented. to CAB, who was under pressure because the applicant had already spent money to do the plans. It was pointed out that was what had happened with the reverse osmosis water plant. Chair Cook expressed regret that the Village probably had to pay twice for those p�ans, which was a waste of money, and commented but then Councilmember Cap�etta says the Village �.s rich, so it didn't matter. Boardmember Parker commer�ted that during construction of the water plant, irrigation had been turned o€f and the origina� plants were:dying or dead, which should be brought to the . attention of the `7i.11age Manager. Mr. Parker commented tha� if the Village Manager received a copy of the minutes he would be made aw�re of this problem. Chair Cook commented she would add that item to her Ietter to Mr . Bradf ord . Ch.air Cook commented she had already sent a letter to the . village Manager and did not receive a response regarding., the mess at Riverside Drive and Tequesta Drive. Boardmember Coben questioned Acting Clerk of the Board Kara Irwin as to the story on that situation. Chair Gook asked. why it took so long, and stated she sent her letter on May 24, and came back fro�n her vacation expecting that corrier to be at least tidied. up. P1.anne� Irwin responded that was being worked on and asked what th.e CAB wanted. Boardmember Coben responded they wanted it to look nice instead of a mess. Chair Cook commented there was rubble there, and a� worst the village Manager could go down there, pick up the rubble�and put it in �is car, piek up the broken-down sign, and get rid of i,t. Ch�ir Cook stated the village had maintenance services. Vice Chair Strahan commented that Nature was taking care of the berm. Chair Cook con$nented: the berm was a mess, too, but there was no reason for the rubble, and the village was putting a lot of money into Country Club D�ive for nice trees and beautifieation, and then residents had to look � at this corner which she considered one of the focal. points of the 'village. Boarclmember Dalack questioned who in the Village staff was responsible, and whether it was Mr. Preston, who had been ill. Chair Cook responded w Gt�QI+TITY APPEARANCE SOARD �RTiN't3 MIDiUTS3 July 14, 1999 Page 8 -------------------------- if someone did not do his job it came back to the Village Manager, who was in charge of the whole kit and caboodle, to find a replacement or do it himself. Acting Clerk of the Board Irwin commented Village staff had been to that site many times and checked things out, Chat it was a young couple working to do �he best they could, and it took time. Chair Cook responded that was not what she was talking about, she was not talking abou� the couple, but was talking about the mess left by the drainage contractor and there was no excuse for that. Ms. Irwin stated that was between the drainage contractor and the couple. Boardmember Coben expressed surprise to learn that was on the couple's property. Chair Cook stated it was not on their property but was on the easement owned by the village. Ms. Irwin stated that berm was not on the easement but on the couple's propert�. Chair Cook . stated she was not taiking about the berm. Planner IrWrin inquired where th� rubble was located. Chair Cook stated she would take her down there right then_and show her the rubbie she was talking about--a pile of rocks and a leftover thing that they had put on the road to warn they were doing construction. Chair Cook �tated she was talking about probabiy the Corner, which was Village property, �here a cement pad had been added and next to the cement pad was rubble, and it was on village property which was �n easement and did not belong to the young coupie who had no money and were trying to fix thei,r propertiy. Boardmember Parker asked if Chai� Cook was referring to the pile of concrete, to which she responded that was correct and it was a mess. Chair Cook stated it was very, very, simpie and there was no excuse for it, and she had seen it that morning as she was driving to the CAB meeting, and everyone cou�.d get in their cars, drive over there, pick up a rock and put it in their car and take it home and put it in thei� garbage. Chair Cook commented she had been tempted to put the rubbie in her car but was not driving her own car. Chair Cook requested that Acting Clerk of the Board Irwin make it a point to mention this situation to Village Manager Bradford. Planner Irwin responded she would mention it to Mr. Ladd. M CO�QNITY APPFARANC$ BOARD a�s�r=rra �rnrr$s July 14, 1999 Page 9 -------------------------- Chair Cook questioned whether there was someone in the Village that a,resident could contact regarding a large pothole_ Chair Cook commented there were several potholes on Point Drive that if they were fixed right away would not become larger and damage the road further. Chair Cook was advised to call rsr. Preston�s department. Boardmember Coben questioned who was replacing Mr. Preston while he was out . No one seemed to know, and Vice Chair Strahan commented that Joanne would know and Chair Cook could call her. Boardmember McCormick commented that �he Presbyterian Church had let their grass go right in front of the church during their construction, and questioned whether there was a plan to wait until construction was complete to take care of the grass. Boardmember Parker commented he was not aware of any plan to wait. The number of trees left on the property was discussed. Chair Cook - - commented it was fabuious to have someone worl�ing on a jab whQ_ cared about the trees. Boardmember Parker cautioned that they might not be finished clearing. Chair Cook asked Boardmember Parker to advise church personnel that the CAB thought it was wonderful the way it looked now. Chair Cook mentioned it Iooked iike sewers would be installed and questioned Sharon Walker, who was in the audience. Ms. walker explair�ed that low pressure sewers were going to be installed in Ms. Cook�s neighborhood and in part of Ms. Walker�s neighborhood instead ot the gravity type because South Florida Water Management District would not issue a dewatering �ermit within 1,00� feet of the river shoreline for environmental reasons. Ms. walker explained that the difference in the two systems was that a pump would be placed on the properties to provide pressure instead of using gravity. Concern was expressed by Chair Cook that there would be pumps everywhere which would be unsightly. Ms. Walker explained that there was an ENCON meeting the next night and that part of the problem was that people did not show up at meetings to voice their op�.nions or concerns or ask f 9 �Ob�(JNITY APPBARANCB 84ARD �STINt� MINOTS3 July 14, 1999 Paqe 10 -------------------------- questions, and the few that showed up every month were considered crazy and they needed other people �o show up; so if this group had questions or concerns they should attend the meeting the next night. Boardmember Coben inquired as to the vacuum type sewer. Ms. walker explained that what was approved by the State Department of Environmental Protection was either gravity or low pressure and that was the end of discussion as far as ENCON was concerned, and that as of a specified year no more permits for septic tanks would be issued. NlS. Walker expiained that if gravity sewers were installed the reliabili�y of wells for fresh water would be endangered because when water was taken out of the ground it was unknown what would replace that water from the river, and that was why South Florida Water Management District would not issue a dewatering permit, plus ~ � possibly there could also be damage to. the aquifer jeopardixing the fresh water supply: Ms. tnTalker s�ated you car�•' t go 14 to 18 feet down and pun�p 400, 000 gallons an hour and not expect something to happen. A Boardmember questioned why EN�ON wanted �o do this, to which Ms. walker responded it was BNCON�s mandate to instali sewers. �iscussion ensued regarding Mr. �ent and his power. Chair Cook commented that her cancern for th2 Village of Tequesta was she thought the CAB should go before the v�.11age Council and express concern that there would be objects (pumps) sticking up having to do�with the sewers. Ms. walker commented that the lift station at �ountry Club Drive and Tequesta Drive was a perfect e�ample, and advised that Tequesta would not landscape the lift station because it was not their responsibility and they were forcing ENCON to do something. Ms. Walker advised the CAB to go en masse to ENCON and publicly embarrass them regarding the condition of the existing lift stations. Ms. Walker announced the ENCON meeting was at 7 p.m. the next night. Boardmember Coben jokingly referred to the meeting before the board meeting, which - Ms. Walker explained was a joke--that she and her husband � a CO�iLTNITY APPFA'RANCE 80ARD �$TING MiNU'PTS July 14, 1999 Page 11 -------------------------- were having dinner in a restaurant before la�t month�s ENCON meeting and noticed three boardmembers and €our staff people having dinn�r at the back of the restaurant, and just the three boardmembers bein� together was a direct violation of the Sunshine Law. Chair Cook commented that complaint should be made to the State. Ms. Walker stated she had written to the Cour�er.and they � had published it after t�ro weeks. Boardmember Coben commented t.he Board was concern�d about the landscaping of the pumping station on Chair Cook's property, to which Chair Cook respdnded their street was a pri�ate street and they didn't know if �hey woulcl get sewers there. Ms. Walker stated the street m�.ght have to be condemned. Boar�7member Coben cammented it was too. bad the septic tarik pumping business was not a bigger Iobby, to which Ms. Walker responded that was a good point. Chair Cook stated the me�ting would be adjourned since-� there was r�o more bu�ines� and then the conversati,on could continue. Boardmember Cvb�n commented that would be a violation of the Sunshine Law, to which Chair Cook responded n4, that e�reryone was present so they could aIl �peak. VIII. ADJOLTRNMSNT The meeting was adjourned at 10:22 A.M. Respectful.ly submitted, �����1 Betty Laur Recording Secretary s a COM�UN=TY APP8AR3�NCg B�ARD MBSTING ffiINOTg3 July 14, 1999 Page 12 ATTEST: Kara Trwin, Planner, sitting in for Scott D. Ladd, Clerk of the Board DATE APPROVBD: lq,__�..199q