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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDocumentation_Regular_Tab 05C_02/10/1994 . "� � s �' VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA ; ; DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPNIENT ' Post Olfice Box 3273 • 357 Tequesta Drive �� 3 e Tequcsta, Florida 33469-0273 •(407) 575-6220 ; ° F�ix: (407) 575-6203 A�, 4 'C N COUM� C O M M U N I T Y A P P E A R A N C E B O A R D M E E T I N G M I N U T E S J A N U A R Y 1 2, 1 9 9 4 I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL The Tequesta Community Appearance Board held a regularly scheduled meeting at the Village Hall, 357 Tequesta Drive, Tequesta, Florida, on Wednesday, January 12, 1994. The meeting was called to order by Chairwoman Leslie Cook at 9:33 A.M. Community Appearance Board members present were: Paul Coben, Ruth Maitland, Claudette Dalack and Vic Strahan. Also in attendance were Scott Ladd, Clerk of the Board. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Boardmember Coben said he would like to make a change in the Agenda to move Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes and Board Reorganization after Unfinished Business. III. NEW BUSINESS 1) Au application from Signcraft to install two additional � free-standing siqns at Village Square Shopping Center, 219-289 U.S. One South. Sign structures are 16.5' in height, with 6' X 9.5' multiple tenant panels. Ernest Toth introduced himself and passed around pictures showing style and design of new signs for north and south end of shopping center. He did not ask for any variances relative to setback. He feels the signs are compatible with existing sign in center. Boardmember Coben asked if existing sign would be changed and was told it would not. Mr. Toth pointed out that on the south end, there would be the green on white panels. Chairwoman Cook asked for clarification. Mr. Toth said all the signs would be green lettering on white background with the exception of Pals, Senior Salsa's and Blockbuster. Chairwoman Cook felt it would look better to have the same color signs on building as on pylon signs. Most members felt that was not feasible. Boardmember Dalack suggested a terra-cotta colored sign in lieu of green. Mr. Toth said that was a choice but that they started with green in the center of the shopping center. Boardmember Maitland Recycled Paper * Community Appearance Board Page 2 -------------------------- asked why there are exceptions on the sign and why were they not all the same. Mr. Toth responded that Mr. Howard Millhauser was accommodating the trademarks of the major tenants. Mr. Toth said these were the colors that exist in . their existing sign. Boardmember Dalack discussed using colors to match building, but it was felt that the signs should match the existing sign. Boardmember Coben asked about the landscaping. Mr. Toth responded that Mr. Millhauser is going to build a planter, and Mr. Coben said the landscaping necessity is a Code Enforcement issue. Further discussion took place regarding landscaping, and that a full parking space will be utilized to help them meet the requirements. Boardmember Dalack expressed that she was not happy with the placement of the Blockbuster sign, that it seemed unbalanced. Boardmember Coben felt it should be left as is. Mr. Toth said they were on the sign as part of the their lease agreement. Chairwoman Cook said she would like to approve the sign with a contingency to discuss the landscaping both in and outside the planter. More discussion took place regarding size of planter, maintenance, types of plants to be used. Mr. Toth pointed out that as the sign contractor, he only discussed with the owner those landscape requirements directly associated with the sign and does not have the authority to deal with overall the landscape plan for the center. Boardmember Coben asked about holding the building permit subject to approval of a larger planter. With Mr. Ladd's advisement, the Board decided to approve the sign with a clause. Boardmember Coben moved to approve the sign application subject to re-evaluation of the base planter to a larger size with a comprehensive landscaping plan. Vice-Chairman Strahan seconded the motion. The vote on the mot�on was: Leslie Cook - for Ruth Maitland - for Vic Strahan - for Claudette Dalack - for Paul Cobea - for - the motion was therefore passed and adopted. Mr. Ladd indicated he was going to hold off on the signoff stamps until the landscaping issue is resolved. Community Appearance Board Page 3 2) An application from James Howell, of Dow, Howell, Gilmore Associates, for the addition of cross illumination at St. Jude Catholic Church, 204 U.S. One North. Mr . Howell stated that the church would like to illuminate the cross. Boardmember Maitland asked what type of cross it was and Mr. Howell explained same. He passed around a picture of what it would look like from various angles. The light structure would stand two feet high, focuses directly on the area to be illuminated and can be softened by the use of a lens within the fixture. He passed out a stencil as an example of what would be used. He also discussed that the time of illumination is flexible and would be on a time clock. Boardmember Coben asked what was changed since the last time . Mr. Howell applied for the lighting. Mr. Howell felt they have addressed the concern about spillage of the light beyond the cross itself and the intensity of �the light. Boardmember Coben asked if Mr. Howell really thought that was the issue, and that the issue pertained to the lighting of a building and should be treated as any other business. Mr. Coben conceded that the church's request was not bound by the Code as they were not asking to illuminate the building, but rather the sign, and did not feel the issue had to do with overflow of the lighting, but that no one on the Board would second the motion to even consider it. Boardmember Dalack brought forth her concern about the lack of lighting in the parking area. Mr. Howell said there was enough light, but that it probably just was not turned on. Chairwoman Cook asked if there was a strong feeling from churchmembers about the lighting, or whether it was just part of the design. Mr. Howell stated that it was always the intent to light the cross. The periphery of the cross was then discussed and how much it would stand out in the Village. Mr. Howell stated the purpose of the stencil was to make it glow, not seem briglit. Some discussion took place about the lighting methods of other churches. Vice-Chairman Strahan said the concern last time was about the intensity of the light, which Mr. Howell said the stencil would take care of. Boardmember Coben indicated that maybe the stencil is not really needed, whereby Mr. Howell felt that it was in that the illumination could be controlled. Boardmember Coben expressed concern that the congregation would get stuck with paying for the maintenance af such a fixture. Mr. Howell said the intent was to only have it on for a few hours each evening and on special occasions, and that the operative costs would not be excessive. Community Appearance Board Page 4 -------------------------- Chairwoman Cook asked why the lighting was not in the original plans, and Mr. Howell said it was because of costs, but that now the funds are available. Chairwoman Cook talked about a man who raised funds for the church and her wish to contact him about raising funds for landscaping. At this point, Mr. William Shannon then introduced himself and addressed the landscape issue. He informed the Board that the majority of landscape materials � used for new projects come from Homestead. When it was hit by the hurricane, it disseminated landscape materials for the entire state of Florida. They had to buy smaller plants than what they would have otherwise. Boardmember Dalack felt there was proper plant material available. Mr. Shannon said that one could buy these plants on the west coast of Florida but that they eventually did not do well when transplanted due to the differences in soil condition, and also that they were very expensive, exceeding the church's budget. Chairwoman Cook felt that since the church was such a tall structure, it needed large trees, and also pointed out that the small plants that were put in have not grown much. Mr. Shannon said that at the time the small shrubs were installed, they were all that was available. He said that the trees and palms that were planted all met the requirements of the landscape plan and were not undersized. Chairwoman Cook again emphasized that the massive structure of the building was not taken into consideration when planning the landscaping and that it did not turn out attractive. Mr. Shannon again expressed that he was happy with what has been done thus far and that it was the best that could have been done at that time. A discussion then took place regarding maintenance, and Mr. Shannon said there could be many reasons why the shrubs have not grown that much, including the bad condition of the soil around the church. Chairwoman Cook expressed her concern that so much money was being spent on lighting when the landscaping was lacking. Boardmember Coben moved that the application be approved with the understanding that following installation, the CAB will have the opportunity to review the light intensity and request an adjustment. Vice-Chairman Strahan seconded the motion. The vote on the motion was: � Coanmunity Appearance eoard Paqe 5 Leslie Cook - for Ruth Maitland - opposed Vic Strahan - for Claudette Dalack - for Paul Coben - for the motion was therefore passed and adopted. IV. APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES (Dece�ber 15, 1993) Boardmember Maitland objected to the way the minutes reflected her discussion about the library and it was her opinion that her discussion was not lengthy. At this point, the secretary pointed out she just types the minutes in her own way, and does not approve them as such. Mr. Ladd said he will watch them closer but did not feel they were hostile. Chairwoman Cook felt too many adjectives were used. Boardmember Coben said he would like a little less editorial flavor, and pointed out the first line of paragraph three on page three of the last minutes "Unrelated to the Community Appearance Board...", although true, did not belong in the minutes. Mr. Ladd proposed that discussions of this nature that include people's personal feelings, should take place after closing the meeting, and that according to Sunshine Law, whatever is on the tape, should be reflected in the minutes. Boardmember Dalack suggested that she did not use the term "reluctantly seconded the motion", wherein several Boardmembers and Mr. Ladd assured her that the secretary did not make it up and that was indeed what she said. Mr. Ladd pointed out that when the Board was given brief minutes, that was not good, then they were given verbatim minutes and that wasn't good and now in trying to come up with something in the middle, is still running into problems. Boardmember Coben felt the editor should use more discretion because of who sees the minutes. Boardmember Coben suggested Mr. Ladd selectively cross out certain things that he does not feel adds to the minutes . Mr. Ladd pointed out that between the addition of "Communications from Citizens" and getting away from things appropriate to the Board can make the meetings more lengthy than necessary. Chairwoman Cook suggested keeping the tape on just for items related to the Agenda, or if there was something special for the tape, that it should be added at the beginning under "Any Other Matters" or "Unfinished Business". Boardmember Coben raised the issue of whether the Sunshine Law permits this. Chairwoman Cook said she may be interested in what another Boardmember feels about an unrelated CAB topic. Mr. Ladd said Community Appearance Bosrd Page 6 that if it is turned into an informational session after the Agenda is done, then the Board has gone beyond the bounds of the meeting. Boardmember Coben again stated that the Sunshine Law prohibits this. Boardmember Maitland felt that discussing her feelings about the library in the last minutes was pertinent to the Board. She then raised her concerns about seeing the plans for the new library and Mr. Ladd pointed out that looking at the plans is a valid point for the minutes. A discussion then took place about whether the minutes should be approved. Boardmember Coben pointed out that a statement of Mr. Griest's regarding Tequestafest was factually incorrect. Deceiaber 15, 1993 Community Appearance Board Meetinq Minutes were approved as submitted. V. COI�tJNITY APPEARANCE BOARD REORGANIZATION Vice-Chairman Strahan asked if there were any nominations for the position of Chairman. Boardmember Maitland nominated Chairwoman Leslie Cook. Boardmember Dalack seconded the nomination. The vote on the nomination was: Ruth Maitland - for Vic Strahan - for Claudette Dalack - for Paul Coben - for Boardmember Coben nominated Vice-Chairman Strahan for Vice- Chairman. Boardmember Maitland seconded the nomination. The vote on the nomination was: Ruth Maitland - for Leslie Cook - for Claudette Dalack - for Paul Coben - for Boardmember Maitland nominated Scott Ladd as Clerk of the Board. Boardmember Dalack seconded the nomination. The vote on the nomination was: Leslie Cook - for Ruth Maitland - for Vic Strahan - for Claudette Dalack - for Paul Coben - for . Community Appearance Board Page 7 -------------------------- VI. UNFINISHED BUSINESS Boardmember Coben brought forth that Mr. Griest's statement about Gallery Square being awarded monies each year to conduct Tequestafest is factually untrue. He said Tequestafest was initiated by the Council and was held in the Gallery Square North because that is the Village's parking lot, and is not being held this year because there is no money being given by the Village. He asked Mr. Griest if he had a part in killing � Tequestafest, which Mr. Griest responded he did not. Chairwoman Cook would like Fidelity Federal Bank to clean up the garden wall on the west side of the bank, and that she was going to draft a letter to them. VII. CONII�ItJNICATION FROM CITIZENS Wade Griest had a copy of the Village Budget and said that regarding Tequestafest, he did not wish to say anything that was untrue. He spoke to Mr. Toth about the signs because it was not brought up by the Board that there could be as many as 28 signs on the main sign. Mr. Griest asked Mr. Ladd if there were any Codes governing newspaper boxes. He witnessed one falling on a child and pinning him to the ground. Mr. Ladd said there was no Code or legislation on this and that whenever they tried to regulate them, the newspapers would threaten to sue, etc. Mr. Griest then discussed DOT's plans to widen Tequesta Drive. He indicated that Gary Preston's office had these plans. VIII. ANY OTHER MATTERS There were no other matters. IV. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business before the Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:05 A.M. . Community Appearance Board Page 8 -------------------------- Respectfully submitted, / /'��'`- Cheryl Mayer � Administrative Secretary Date Approved: 'd'�f � By : �Yl (.�-� c(1 � C/l a�G� .