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HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes_Commuinity Appearance_11/12/2003 r : ,�� VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA ` � Post Office Box 3273 • 250 Tequesta Drive, Suite 300 �"� ��� a Tequesta, Florida 33469-0273 • (561) 575-6200 't' z . , o Fa�c: (561) 575-6203 e�. - i � h Co VILLAGE OF TEQUESTA COMMUNITY APPEARANCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2003 I. CALL TO ORDER A�ND ROLL CALL The Tequesta Community Appearance Board held a meeting in the Tequesta Recreation Department at 399 Seabrook Road, Tequesta, Florida, on Wednesday, November 12, 2003. The meeting was called to order at 8:37 A.M. by Chair Vic Strahan. The roll was called by Betty Laur, Recording Secretary. Boardmembers present were: Chair Vic Strahan, Vice Chair Steve Parker, Boardmember Richard Sterling, and Boardmember Leslie Cook. Alternate Robert Young was seated due to the absence of Boardmember Robert Stein. Alternate Gerald Wenta was absent from the meeting. Also in attendance was Carol Lux, Clerk of the Board. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Boardmember Cook imade a motion to approve the agenda as submitted. Vice Chair Parker seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. III. COMMUNICATIONS FROM CITIZENS There were no communications from citizens. IV. APPROVAL OF PREVIOUS MEETING MINUTES MOTION Boardmember Sterling made a motion to approve the minutes of the July 24, 2003 meeting as submitted. Vice Chair Parker seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. Recycled Paper COMMUNITYAPPFARANCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2003 Page 2 -------------------------- V. NEW BUSINESS A. An application from Gould Signs, Inc., representing Tequesta Urgent Care for a property located at One Main Street, Tequesta Village Center, Tequesta, Florida, to review two (2) wall signs to be located on the northwest and northeast corners of the building. a. Swearing-In of Witnesses, if Required Clerk of the Board Carol Lux swore in a11 witnesses. b. Disclosure of Ex-Parte Communications: Chair Strahan reported he had spoken to the JMZ representative, Greg Grudevich, and to Iris from Tequesta Urgent Caxe to clarify the northeast corner sign location. Chair Strahan reported that Iris had spoken to Mr. Gould to clarify the size of the sign in relation to the bolts in the wall used to hold storm shutters. No other Boaxdmember reported ex-parte communication. c. Testimony of Witnesses and Cross Examination, if any Donald Gou1d explained that at night the background of the sign would be illuminated and the letters would appear dark against the background. Boardmember Cook expressed her opinion that the font was too plain and should match the building better. Mr. Gould explained that there was not enough room to provide a font with serifs with the small 12" lettering. Boardmember Cook suggested using the same font used on the bank building on the corner, Independent Community Bank. Mr. Gould responded those were free form letters in lighted signs with faces and these were individual letters. Boardmember Cook expressed her disappointment. Discussion ensued. Boardmember Cook noted that a11 other tenants would use the same font that was chosen for this sign. Boardmember Sterling questioned whether sign colors had been established, to which the response was no. Mr. Gould expressed concern regarding visibility using a different font, since the lettering could not be larger. Uice Chair Parker asked if the sign could be placed under the canopy above the glass doors, to which Mr. Gould responded that would not be visible to people coming up the road. The importance of visibility was discussed. Vice Chai.r Parker agreed that the COMMUNITYAPPF.ARANCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2003 Page 3 -------------------------- plain lettering did not enhance'the architecture of the building. Mr. Gould suggested a font called Clarendon, a bold face serifed font, but noted that Dr. Gregory had wanted a plain design. Mr. Gould indicated he could look in his vehicle to see if he had a photo of a sign using the Clarendon font. MOTION Vice Chair Parker made a motion to table the application from Gould Signs until after the next application in order to allow time for Mr. Gould to find an example of the Clarendon font. Boardmember Sterling seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. B. An application by Sunoco Inc., for a property located at 104 N. U.S. Highway One, Tequesta, Florida, t review a new canopy for the fuel pump areas and signage changing from Speedway to Sunoco. a. Swearing-In of Witnesses, if Required Clerk of the Board Carol Lux swore in a11 witnesses. b. Disclosure of Ex-Parte Communications: Each Boardmember reported no ex-parte communication. c. Testimony of Witnesses and Cross Examination, if any Jim Kasmirski, representing the applicant, provided actual color samples, and explained that the project was only for re-designing, with no new construction, and that Sunoco had purchased the property. Boardmember Cook commented the building badly needed to be painted. Mr. Kasmirski indicated that could be considered, but he just wanted to address signage at this point. Chair Strahan pointed out that the building needed paint and the current gray did nothing to enhance the proposed trim colors. Boaxdmember Cook noted only options A and E had been submitted and asked what happened to the other options, stating option E was just too much for her. It was clarified that options A and E related to the fascia on the building. Mrs. Cook inquired whether the side of the building facing Tequesta Drive was depicted. Mr. Kasmirski explained there was a Subway sign there. The colors on the Subway sign were discussed. Vice Chair Parker noted it said on the plans that the building would be pressure washed and painted. Ms. Lux COMMUNITYAPPF.ARANCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2003 Page 4 -------------------------- noted if the building was painted the same color that did not need board approval. Chair Strahan asked what color the fascia was to be painted where the Subway Sign was located, to which the applicant responded it would be Sunoco blue. Boardmember Cook pointed out other places that needed to be painted. Chair Strahan asked for clarification on how options A or E would be carried around the building. Discussion ensued. The board referred to the plans for orientation. Boardmember Cook requested options B, C. and D, which Mr. Kasmirski presented and which showed the arch sign smaller. Boardmember Sterling expressed his preference for option B on both sides which was the same as option A but with smaller signs. Vice Chair Parker and Boardmember Sterling liked option A because there was less yellow. Ms. Lux verified that the sign sizes were within the code. It was confirmed that if option A was chosen it would go around three sides—that there was no fascia on the back. Boardmember Cook pointed out that the same signage would be on the puxnps and she thought it was pretty garish, and expressed her opinion people would buy gas there because of the location no matter what signs were there. Ms. Lux noted there would be new lighting un.der the canopy. Mr. Kasmirski indicated the canopy itself would not be lit, just the sign box with "Sunoco". Boardmember Cook commented Sunoco should have submitted paint samples for the building; Ms. Lux responded she had asked if the building would be painted a different color and the response had been no. Boardmember Cook expressed her opinion that the gray was unattractive on this brick building with Spanish tile roof, that nothing went together, and suggested white or off-white as on the Tequesta sign. Mr. Kasmirski commented he did not bring a paint chip, since he was under the assumption the building would be painted the same color. Chair Strahan requested that the building be painted a color more compatible with other buildings in the neighborhood: Boardmember Sterling suggested using a basic color on the building with the bright colors only on the canopy and pumps and not to have all the bright colors on the fascia. Boardmember Cook agreed, and asked if the landscaping was acceptable, since there were old plants that needed to be removed and the hedge had been replaced with very low plants and no mulch. Ms. Lux explained that the applicant was supposed to come before the board if they changed any landscaping and she had not realized plants had been replaced. Vice Chair Parker commented that the dwaxf oleander had been replaced with pluxnbago and they should have used cocoplum his recommendation was red-tipped cocoplum. Mr. Parker noted there were holly trees missing on the west property line. Chair Strahan announced this application would be tabled and asked when COMMUNITYAPPF.ARANCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2oog Page 5 -------------------------- the applicant could return. After discussion, it was agreed that it would probably be the first week in December. Ms. Lux clarified to the applicant that landscaping would be included and asked the applicant to see her to go over the originallandscape plan. The Board discussed recommendations, which including coming back with a building color that harmonized with the other buildings in the area, no Sunoco colors on the fascia, using canopy option A which was mostly blue with flashes of yellow and red. Mr. Kasmirski noted the word "Sunoco" would appear on the east end. Ms. Lux stated it would be lighted. Mr. Kasmirski noted the side elevations had no words, only the rainbow colors. Boardxnember Cook commented the gray color of the building made it look dirty and implied the inside of the store was dirty, and she believed more people would go inside if it was off-white. The poles of the sign should also be off-white to match the building. Chair Strahan clarified that the sign over the door was okay, and the fascia could be a shade darker or lighter than the building but the same color. The applicant was given buildings to view for acceptable paint color—the Mosler building, Independent Bank, and Tequesta Urgent Care. Consensus was the board was okay with the canopy. Ms. Lux advised that a new landscape plan would be needed or the original approved plan could be brought up to code. The applicant was advised the plans must be complete and show the board's recommendations. Ms. Lux requested everything be included in one big package. The applicant was given the plans and advised he could make notes on them rather than having the plans re-printed. Chair Strahan asked whether the reclamation proj ect on the corner of the site was permanent and should be painted or landscaped. Vice Chair Parker stated he would have to look at it. MOTION Vice Chair Parker made a motion to table the application from Sunoco Inc., for a property located at 104 N. U.S. Highway One, Tequesta, Florida, for a new canopy for the fuel pump areas and signage changing from Speedway to Sunoco, to the first Wednesday in December, 2003, with the following recommendations: 1. The building shall be painted off-white with the fascia painted off-white in a shade either slightly lighter or darker than the off- white of the building. 2. The "A+" sign is acceptable to the board. COMMUNITYAPPF.ARANCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2003 Page 6 -------------------------- 3. The pump canopies are acceptable except paint the poles to match the building or the fascia. 4. The poles on the sign shall be painted to match the building, and the sign is okay. 5. Applicant shall refer to the original approved landscape plan and any trees that have been removed shall be replaced; any plants that have been removed or died shall be replaced. The strip along US Highway One shall be replanted with red-tipped cocoplum. 6. The pump colors and free-standing sign are acceptable. 7. Applicant could hide the lower portion of the sign with red- tipped cocoplum. 8. Applicant shall be given the original approved landscape plan. 9. The fence around the pump and dumpster shall be painted to match the building. Boardmember Sterling seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. 3. The application from Gould Signs, Inc. was re-opened. Donald Gould showed an example of a substitute font called "Optima". The board discussed and agreed the "Optima" font was acceptable and that the sign color would match the building. MOTION: Vice Chair Parker made a motion to approve the application from Gould Signs, Inc., representing Tequesta Urgent Care for a property located at One Main Street, Tequesta Village Center, Tequesta, Florida, for two (2) wall signs to be located on the northwest and northeast corners of the building as submitted, except the font shall be changed to "Optima". Boardmember Young seconded the motion, which carried by unanimous 5-0 vote. COMMUNITY APPEAREINCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2oog Page � -------------------------- VI. ANY OTHER MATTERS Ms. Lux provided an update on the status of the proposed Planning and Zoning boaxd. The first reading had been held in October and the Village Council had decided to re-draft the ordinance to make sure the membership was redistricted in some way. After consulting the Village attorney, it had been rewritten so that there could only be two people from the same homeowners association, condo, etc., so that one axea could not dominate. Ms. Lux reported the ordinance was to go to second reading or first reading again this coming Thursday and as a part of the new ordinance the Community Appearance Board would be dissolved. Staff would be contacting the members of the Community Appearance Board to see if they would be interested in becoming part of the Planning & Zoning Board, and they would be asked to submit their applications. Ms. Lux commented she would appreciate it if the members would submit their applications if the ordinance passed on Thursday. Boardmember Cook asked how this got sta.rted and expressed her opinion it was really not a good idea and it would be better to have two separate boards, one for planning and zoning and the other the CAB. Mrs. Cook noted this board spent a lot of time on appearance. Chair Strahan disagreed, and explained that one of the reasons for changing was the Village Council might spend only ten minutes going through plans for a project and say yes on something that needed two hours. Boardmember Cook commented for years the CAB was an advisory boaxd and advised the Village Council regaxding appearance and that had worked fine. Ms. Lux explained the biggest reason was the re-write of the zoning code and the new Planning and Zoning Board would sit for hours and hours and it would probably take a year to bring the code through. It was anticipated these meetings would last 2-4 hours, and Ms. Lux commented the code was definitely outdated and needed the re- write. Boardmember Cook commented she thought it had worked very well when the CAB reviewed first and then the Village Council made the final decision. Ms. Lux advised that she should bring that to the attention of the Village Council before Thursday. Boardmember Cook favored having both a P&Z and CAB, stating the more people involved the better, but pointed out the CAB had a hard time getting people on this board. Chair Strahan commented the P&Z would discuss more contentious subjects which was why Councilmember Genco wanted representatives split into areas, because people would have vested interests. One of the first major issues to be considered by P&Z would be the policy on parking boats, trailers, campers, etc. A lot of people were very opposed to restrictions, and that subject alone would bring up a lot of contention, and if this had been a P&Z meeting the room would be full of people for and against the issue. COMMUNITYAPPFARANCE BOARD MEETING MINUTES November 12, 2003 Page 8 -------------------------- Boardmember Cook asked how many complaints there could be about a boat, and expressed surprise to learn there were 2-3 a week. Boardmember Sterling expressed concern that the subject matter considered by CAB would get lost. Ms. Lux responded that Councilmember Capretta had brought that up, asking after a year what would P&Z do, but then it would be what CAB did now. Ms. Lux explained that Jack Horniman had been working on code changes but there would still be a lot of input. The emphasis would be on zoning for the first year, then planning. Chair Strahan suggested ��he name could be Zoning and Appearance Board or Planning, Zoning and Architectural Review. Ms. Lux advised the Village Council would vote on the P&Z members. Boardmember Cook commented she would lobby the Village Council members to keep the members of the CAB for P&Z. Chair Strahan commented there should be more members on the Planning and Zoning Board. Boardmember Coolc commented she had waited 15-20 years to get rid of the gray on the Sunoco building. Ms. Lux reported Chevron would be updating also. VII. ADJOURNMENT Upon motion by Boardmember Cook, seconded by Boardmember Sterling, and unanimously carried 5-0, the meeting was adjourned at 10:00 a.m. Respectfully submitted, s "� .._.�C.__ _ _%\: .J ��'°.,�-�..._•- Betty Laur Recording Secretary