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HomeMy WebLinkAboutDocumentation_Regular_Tab 06B_08/09/2001 r Y « T � VILLAGE OF TEQUE5TA '� Post Office Box 3273 • 250 Tequesta Drive, Suite 300 �� � Tequesta, Flozida 33469-0273 • (561) 575-6200 \\ � �' ' o Fax:(561)575-6203 VII.LAGE C�UNCIL WORKSHOP WITH SONG + ASSOCIATES MINUTES SATURDAY, JULY 14, 2001 10:00 A.M. SEABROOK ROAD RECREATION FACILITY Comparative Analysis of Two Sites for the "Tequesta Village Hall" Workshop #2 L CALL TU ORDER AND ROLL CALL The Tequesta Village Council held a Workshop at 399 Seabrook Road, Tequesta, Fiorida on Saturday, 7uly 14, 2001. The meeting was called to order at 10:05 a.m. by Mayor Geraldine Genco. Roll call was taken by Mary Wolcott, Village Clerk. Councilmembers present: Councilmember Russell J. von Frank, Councilmember Sharon D. Walker, Mayor Geraldine Genco, and Councilmember Basil E. Dalack. Vice-Mayor 7oseph N. Capretta was absent. Also in attendance: Village Manager Michael R. Couzzo, Village Clerk Mary Wolcott, Department Heads, and Song + Associates. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA There were no amen�lments to the ager�da. III. PRESENTATION BY SONG + ASSOCIATES REGARDING THE TWO 5ITES UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR THE NEW VII.,LAGE CENTER Young Song thanked everyone for coming and introduced the following individuals working with her: Gregory Hong; Song + Associates; her son; Debbie Wilkinson, Song + Associates; Scott Slora, LBF & J; and Emily O'Mahoney, Gentile and Associates. Young Song stated for the first 40 minutes there will be a presentation on their research, and then a 40 minute question and answer session. She mentioned Workshop #3 would be on 7uly 24 at 7:00 p.m_, and it will be a summary of Workshops #1, #2 and developrnents. Council Workshop July 14, 2001 Reey�tad Paper ♦ POWERPOINT PRESENTATION Young Song summarized the previous workshop, showin►g residents live here because of private community/water views, quiet/tranquil, and some don't want to grow. Others see Tequesta as a booming/growing village, a place for the future generation. She stated the Village Hall to the residents is a focal point of town, a structure to last 50 years or more, an adequate facility for the long-term, with fle�bility to add, a possible conference center, multi-functional, and used for public activities. 357 Site vs. Plaza Site Young Song asked, in terms of planning, how many thought 357 was a better focal point and better site. Eleven raised their hand. She asked how many thought the Plaza site wa5 better, and six raised their hand. Eleven raised their hand when asked if 357 was the best for multi-use, and seven raised their hand when asked if the Plaza site was better for multi-use. John Giba stated whatever we do is going to have to last at least 40 or 50 years, and we should consider not casting into any structures in the year 2001. A member of the audience suggested the citizens wanted to hear the analyses of the two sites before they made decisions of which site they liked best. Young Song said they were doi�g it this way to get the audience's perception. Another member of the audience stated this was the wrong way of going on with the workshop, they came here to find out the difference between the two sites. Ma.yor Genco stated we are trying to break down information from the last meetirig, then the next step will be the Municipal Hall needs assessment progra�this is to get perception. This is finding out based on the people who have an interest in what is happening, what their perception is. At the last workshop, people made comments about what they saw. This is a summary of what peop�e thought was important. We are trying to get a better perception. Taylor Carey did not agree with the perception questions, and wanted to get the data on the sites. An aa,�dience member believed his idea af perception was different than the Council's, and wanted to go farward with the information on the sites. Young Song stated they would go forward with the data.. Young Song stated her office interviewed Village Hall Staff and assessed their needs now and in ten years. Year-to-date there are 18 employees, and 21 proposed by year Council Workshop July 14, 2001 -2- w � 2011. The existing space now is 6,667 sq. ft., and the proposed for year 2011 is 14,817 sq. ft. Village Hall is underspaced right now. In terms of site location, Mrs. Song showed maps with d�erent overlays in the Village on the Powetpoint presentation, including Public Buildings/Open Space, Commercial/Mixed Use Area, Residential Communities, and Location of Both Sites. In terms of site size Ypung Song explained that at the 357 site, everything totaled to approximately 4.5 acres, and the Plaza site totaled approximately 4.8 acrES, and the site size is approximately the same. Emily O'Mahoney explained that the roadway in front of 357 is almost to capacity per the Comprehensive Plan (Comp Plan), and the road in front of the Plaza site is way below capacity, as well as the intersection along US 1. There are 50 approved parking spaces at the 357 site. She stated the traffic service level is about at capacity at the 357 site, and at the Plaza, site, there are five proposed entries into the site off of two roads instead of one, and the area is in a special planning district which allows for exemptive issues. There are 333 parking spaces heing pravided at the Plaza site. Emily O'MaLoney stated that in the Comp Plan regarding the 357 site, 5ection 2 is a neighborhood park, and the Village needs additional neighborhood parks by 2.5 acres. Section 2 removal as a pa,rk will require a Comp Plan amendment. Section 1 is zoned C- 1 commercial—it has a land use designation of Public Buildings and Grounds, and the Village Ha11 is a Special Use Exception. Plus the Comp Plan has policies protecting well field locations. At the Plaza site, the Village Center Site was designated a Special Planning Area in 1989, which gives it full exemption to a11 concurrency standards_ The mixed-use policies ofthe Village's Comp Plan encourage establishment of public buildings in the special planning area. Scott Slora stated we have a new South Florida Water Management District (SFWIVID) general permit for �he 357 site. There is convenient water and sewer available as well as storm water retention. There are production well and RO well issues—permitting through Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) and Health Department and requirement to drill RO well at time of development. Convenient water and sewer are available. The civil issues for the Plaza site include the SFWNID permit modification requirement. There is convenient water and sewer available, and storrnwater retention/exfiltration. There is convenient vehicle access. Young Song stated we have 40 minutes to entertain questions. Council Workshop July 14, 2001 -3- . Harold Taylor, 13 Chapel Court questioned the parking spaces. Emily O'Mahoney explained there are 50 approved spaces at the 357 site and 333, they were counted on the plans, parking spaces at the Plaza site. Cyrese Colbert regarded the five ingresses and egresses that were mentioned, and stated all five of those do not go to the shopping center—you can't get there from those. You � cannot get in from the back spaces. And regarding parking, it looks goad on paper, but realistically, you are going to need more with the other buildings going up. Taylor Carey stated the site where we are going to build Village Hall was more than acre, it is almost 1.5. In light of all the knowledge and information we were given, we still don't know what site would be better. We still can't give you our perception. Young Song stated she has used this method several times, all in good intention, sometimes it works. She stated we want to look at the perception of both options, and what kind of future is planned--this allows us to make the selection. Hal Hutchinson addressed the traffic issue stating regardless if it is built in any place other than 357, that particular part between old Dixie and U.S. 1 will be dangerous with a Centex project being built on the north corner. Everyone here that travels that road, when Centex goes in there and the Village allows an entrance and exit through Village Hall, and if you take into consideration all of the proposed buildings JMZ is going to have, it is going to be a nightmare. Jim Humpuge asked when the tr�e study was done, were the totals for daily trips including Centex. Emily O'Mahoney responded the numbers included Centex. Mr. Humpage had them go back to the location slide-size comparison. He stated the blue (overlay) is the entire plaza, not just the section, and asked if we can do an overlay with the actual site, not the entire structure. He stated we basically own the footprint of the Plaza, and at the 357 site---we really own 59,000 sq ft. Dorvthy Campbell asked to go where it shows the residentia.l property on the slide and asked what the brown section was (Tequesta Oaks) and asked if that was residential. Emily O'Mahoney responded it was "residential," but it is a mixed-used zaning area. Ms. Campbell stated it gives an idea of what l�ind of traffic we have going through there. Arnold Bdum, 410 Tequesta Drive, wanted to make people aware that previously when we gave everything to 7MZ, we gave him rights to angled parking on Bridge Raad. If we build in the Pla.za, Bridge Road is going to have more tra.�c than it does now. This may cause an accident or problem, even if we widen Bridge Road. Jim Humpage asked to look at the downtown parcel again. The Village right now owns the southwest parcel, and if we are unsuccessful with 7MZ in making the landscape, the Village Hail wili go on Parcel2. Council Workshop July 14, 2001 -4- • � J ' Cyrese Colbert, Gallery Square Narth, stated the Comp Plan can be changed, and when you talk about permitting, people that live on the water have to more trouble getting permitting for a dock than we do for these wells. As far as tr�c on Dixie and U.S. 1— people in this area do not like to go to U. S. 1. Jim Humpage stated to Ms. Song she is including the rest of the businesses in the Plaza, so she could put Gallery Square North on the rest of 357 and include all the space we have there, to make it fair, if we are going to show the businesses at the Plaza_ Taylor Carey mentioned much traffic flows onto U.S. 1, and we are told traffic is more in front of 357 than at the Plaza site. Emily O'Mahoney responded it is capacity—we are saying how this physically lays out. Young Song stated this is the data we have to date. A lot more information is needed. At the ne�rt workshop we will bring a rnore comprehensive traffic engineering study. We wi11 defer these answers until next time. Councilmember Dalack stated the Council will decide on a referendum for a loca.tion of Village Hall. In order to have a meaningful referendum, we need information too—I would like to know the cost difference, if we have the same building, would be the same. If there axe more difficulties_ Then, besides the physical plan, if there are e�enses for moving greenspace. I need a meaningful comparison. Is it physically possible to put it at 357 when we akeady have public safety building? Young Song respor�ded we intend to look into the site cost and development, we want to bring to you a schedule, issues, and a summary of items Mayor Genco stated the next workshop is going to have a composite of all the information. Jim Humpage stated he understands where folks are coming from, and wanders if the Council would consider an additiona,l workshop. It is difficult to answer these questions when we don't have the facts. I' d like to have as much information as we can—the residents wo�ld be well served Harold Taylor, 13 Chapel Ct., asked how practical it is to have a 3D cad pr�sentation of the sites, model or something. Young Song e�la.ined the intention is fact gathering to decide which site is better to build Village Ha11. Councilmember Walker agreed with the previous comments that filling the form out now is premature---we have about 5200 residents. She would like to see us really publicize the next workshop, request the public's presence—publicize through our local newspapers and water bill. She is concerned that many of our citizens are on vacation, and requests some sort of notification is physically mailed to everyone. Council Workshop July 14, 2001 -5- s . � Mayor Genco stated we need to go ahead and get input on this because it becomes a part of the ne� rneeting. The residents that are here will be using this, we need to move forward. This becomes part of that decision process. Councilmember Walker stated she is simply trying not to exclude any of the residents. Ed Resnik stated with respect to the size o�the facility that currently is about 6,600 sq. ft, that only includes operating space of the Village Hall not meeting rooms utilized by the public. Young Song responded in terms of size and space, they are using it for the activity area, the park for the outside area. A large lobby is designed for a Christmas tree or display. But it is what you decide. Yesterday we got a letter from someone who would like in this Village a gymnasium. We have good enough data t� go on into programming. H'al Hutchinson stated he was glad Mrs. Walker was trying to get some public input; however, when the opportunity was there before, when the referendum was presented to the Council, it was rejected. Young Song stated from what she is hearing, it might be better to change the 24 date because of the advertising, and plus the data they need to bring. Mavor Genco responded we will look at that as a possibility, right now it is planned for the 24�'. Let's address and continue this workshop. Maybe two workshops is something we will consider. Young Song (flipped presentation back to 357 Site vs. Plaza Site form) stated this form is for f+eedback—that is the reason we have you here. Sorne of you are reluctant. You are conc�rned about which site is better. After the last workshop, the reason I created this form, some people came up to me at the end of the last meeting and said they changed their mind after the meeting. I thought it was good data tp know the comments. I know some of you don't feel comfortable. An audience member stated if we didn't do the survey before, you can't have an after, it's meaningless. You also do not have a representative sa.mple of the residents. Mayor Genco remarked at the last meeting some people brought up sorne thin,gs they thought were important she had not considered. She saw this chart as indicating things people were concerned with. Ed Resnick remarked he liked the chart, but based on the comments and what you have to do for the next meeting, I don't think vve can make valid judgments on well fields, on traffic and engineering. I would say when you get this information, present it, ask these questions, and have one more meeting aft�r this. Young Song stated at the ne� meeting she might bring a form to hand out so she can get input before and after from the public. Council Workshop 7uly 14, 2001 -6- !, � Joan Carey stated in effort to publicize the next workshop, is it possible to erect a sign at 357. Mayor Genco agreed we could do a sign on both sites. N. ADJOURNIVIENT The Workshop was adjourned at I I: 40 a. m. Council Workshop July 14, 2001 -�-